Vector Triple Product: Simplification Possible?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the basis $\{\mathbf{b},\mathbf{c},\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c}\}$ and the definition of the triple vector product. It is mentioned that the product cannot be simplified further and that the given basis is an orthogonal basis according to the Gram-Schmidt orthogonalization algorithm.
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Given the basis $\{\mathbf{b},\mathbf{c},\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c}\}$.
We define the triple vector product as
$$
\mathbf{b}\times(\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c}) = (\mathbf{b}\cdot\mathbf{c})\mathbf{b} - b^2\mathbf{c}
$$
Can this be simplified further? We don't know if b and c are orthogonal just that they are linearly independent.
 
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I don't think you can simplify further.
 
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dwsmith said:
Given the basis $\{\mathbf{b},\mathbf{c},\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c}\}$.
We define the triple vector product as
$$
\mathbf{b}\times(\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c}) = (\mathbf{b}\cdot\mathbf{c})\mathbf{b} - b^2\mathbf{c}
$$
Can this be simplified further? We don't know if b and c are orthogonal just that they are linearly independent.

Nope.
Note that $\{\mathbf{b},\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c},\mathbf{b}\times(\mathbf{b}\times\mathbf{c})\}$ is an orthogonal basis.
Effectively you are looking at the Gram-Schmidt orthogonalization algorithm.
 

FAQ: Vector Triple Product: Simplification Possible?

What is a vector triple product?

A vector triple product is a mathematical operation that involves three vectors, where the result is a new vector. It is calculated using the cross product and dot product of the three vectors.

When is simplification possible for a vector triple product?

Simplification is possible for a vector triple product when the three vectors are coplanar, meaning they lie on the same plane. In this case, the cross product of the three vectors is equal to zero, resulting in a simplified product.

How is the vector triple product calculated?

The vector triple product is calculated by first taking the cross product of two of the vectors. This result is then multiplied by the dot product of the third vector and the cross product of the first two vectors.

What is the significance of the vector triple product?

The vector triple product has important applications in physics and engineering, particularly in the calculation of torque and angular momentum. It is also used in computer graphics for 3D transformations and in the study of fluid mechanics.

Can the vector triple product be applied to any three vectors?

No, the vector triple product can only be applied to three vectors that are linearly independent, meaning they are not parallel or collinear. Otherwise, the result would be undefined or zero.

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