Velocity dependent force question

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of finding the speed of a moving object, which is acted upon by a retarding force that is dependent on the speed. The conversation suggests using the equation F=ma and the method of separation of variables to solve the problem. The solution presented involves integrating the equation and taking the natural log to find the final velocity as a function of time. However, a correction is suggested regarding the use of the exponential function.
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Homework Statement


Initial speed = v, only for acting on it is retarding force F(v) = -Ae^(-cv). Find it's speed as a function of time.




Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


m(dv/dt) = -Ae^(-cv)
dv / (-Ae^(-cv) = dt / m

integrating gives
[e^(-cv)/Ac] = t/m

where the left side of that integral is evaluated from initial vi to final vf

e^(-cvi)/Ac-e^(-cvf)/Ac = t / m

multiplying by AC and taking the natural log of all of this...

-cvf + cvi = ln(tAc/m)
vf = vi - (1/c)*ln(tAc/m)

Does this look correct? An online source says this is wrong. Thanks for the help, LaTex coming soon.
 
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Well, check your signs. Principally, using "separation of variables" is the correct approach to solve this 1st order ODE.
 
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PsychonautQQ said:

Homework Statement


Initial speed = v, only for acting on it is retarding force F(v) = -Ae^(-cv). Find it's speed as a function of time.




Homework Equations


F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution


m(dv/dt) = -Ae^(-cv)
dv / (-Ae^(-cv) = dt / m

integrating gives
[e^(-cv)/Ac] = t/m
You do know that [itex]1/e^{-cv}= e^{cv}[/itex], don't you? So simpler is
[tex]me^{cv}dv= -Adt[/tex]
and the integrating
[tex]\frac{m}{c}e^{cv}= -At+ C[/tex]

where the left side of that integral is evaluated from initial vi to final vf

e^(-cvi)/Ac-e^(-cvf)/Ac = t / m

multiplying by AC and taking the natural log of all of this...

-cvf + cvi = ln(tAc/m)
vf = vi - (1/c)*ln(tAc/m)

Does this look correct? An online source says this is wrong. Thanks for the help, LaTex coming soon.
 

Related to Velocity dependent force question

1. What is a velocity dependent force?

A velocity dependent force is a force that depends on the velocity of an object. This means that the magnitude and direction of the force will change as the velocity of the object changes.

2. What is an example of a velocity dependent force?

An example of a velocity dependent force is drag force. As an object moves through a fluid, such as air or water, the drag force acting on the object changes depending on the velocity of the object. This force increases as the velocity of the object increases.

3. How does a velocity dependent force affect motion?

Velocity dependent forces can either increase or decrease the velocity of an object. If the force is in the same direction as the velocity, it will increase the velocity. If the force is in the opposite direction of the velocity, it will decrease the velocity.

4. Are all forces velocity dependent?

No, not all forces are velocity dependent. Some forces, such as gravity, do not depend on the velocity of the object. These forces are called conservative forces and their magnitude and direction do not change with the velocity of the object.

5. How are velocity dependent forces represented in equations?

Velocity dependent forces are often represented using functions that include the velocity of the object, such as F(v) or F(v,t). These equations show the relationship between the force and the velocity of the object at a given time.

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