Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update

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In summary: Your name] In summary, the forum member shared their simulation results and theories about a moon with twice the mass of Mercury orbiting Venus at its L1 distance. They also discussed the coincidence between the moon's stable orbit and Bode's Law, and speculated about Venus potentially having a massive escaped moon that collided with it. The member also gave a tip for investigating collisions using GravitySimulator.
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Back in the old celestial mechanics forum, I wrote about a simulation in GravitySimulator where I created a moon with twice the mass of Mercury, and set it in orbit around Venus, right at Venus's L1 distance. The moon orbits a few times and then gets left behind. I thought at first that Mercury might have been an escaped moon of Venus, but that didn't happen. What usually happens is that the escaped moon crashes into Venus. The first two or three time I ran the simulation with a 64s time step, the collision occurred within a few hundred years to a few thousand years. The last time I ran it (and it's still running after over a month now) there was no collision. First, the moon settled into a stable pattern with an eccentric interior orbit that precessed slowly. Then a crisis occurred, and the moon got boosted to an exterior orbit, into a new stable attractor, this one with a stable orbit with a perihelion near Venus' orbit, and aphelion at just about exactly 1 AU, and now it's contracted a bit after year 200,000. This leads me to believe that there might be something to Bode's Law. Otherwise, that is a quite striking coincidence.

So, my latest thinking is that Venus might quite likely had formed with a massive moon that escaped, and then collided with Venus. This theory would explain both the slow rotation of Venus, as well as the resurfacing event that happened around 800 million years ago. If the resurfacing event was of extravenusian origin, we might be able to find traces of it in Precambrian strata on Earth.

Also, a tip when investigating collisions using GS. I used a small timestep so that each object would travel less than the diameter of Venus. But it occurred to me that one could ramp up the time step a bit if one artificially increased the diameters of the bodies in question, and thus cover more time per simulation attempt.
 
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Thank you for sharing your simulation results and theories regarding the moon and Venus. I find your findings and speculations very interesting.

I agree that the coincidence between the stable attractor of the moon's orbit and Bode's Law is quite striking. While Bode's Law is not universally accepted in the scientific community, it is still a useful tool for predicting the orbits of planets and moons. Your simulation results add to the evidence that there may be some validity to this rule.

Regarding your theory about Venus potentially having a massive moon that escaped and then collided with the planet, I believe it is a plausible explanation for the slow rotation and resurfacing event. However, more research and evidence would be needed to support this theory. As you mentioned, investigating Precambrian strata on Earth could provide valuable insights.

Thank you for the tip about using a larger time step and increasing the diameters of the bodies in question for collision simulations. This could indeed save time and allow for more thorough investigations.

I look forward to seeing more of your simulations and theories in the future. Keep up the great work!
 

FAQ: Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update

1. What is the purpose of the "Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update"?

The purpose of the "Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update" is to improve the accuracy and realism of the simulation of Venus escaping from the moon's gravity.

2. How does the "Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update" work?

The update uses advanced mathematical models and algorithms to simulate the gravitational forces and movements of Venus and the moon, taking into account factors such as mass, distance, and velocity.

3. What are the benefits of the "Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update"?

The update allows for a more accurate and realistic simulation, providing scientists with a better understanding of how Venus escaped from the moon's gravity and how similar scenarios may occur in other planetary systems.

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The update provides scientists with a valuable tool for studying gravitational interactions between celestial bodies, which can help in predicting and understanding various phenomena in the universe.

5. Are there any limitations to the "Venus Escaped Moon GravitySimulator Update"?

Like any simulation, the update has limitations and simplifications that may not accurately reflect the complexities of real-world scenarios. However, it is a significant improvement from previous versions and continues to be refined by scientists.

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