Verification of Stoke's Theorem for a Cylinder

In summary, the conversation discusses using Stoke's Theorem to solve a problem involving parametric equations for a wall and bottom. The integral on the lefthand side is written in terms of cylindrical coordinates, and the lateral surface and bottom face must be integrated separately. The conversation also mentions calculating ##d\Sigma## and using the correct signs for the orientation.
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NuclearMeerkat
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


Stoke's Theorem:
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The Attempt at a Solution


∇×A = (3x,-y,-2(z+y))

I have parametric equation for wall and bottom:
Wall: x(θ,z) = acosθ ; y(θ,z) = asinθ ; z(θ,z) = z [0≤θ≤2π],[0≤z≤h]
Bottom: x(θ,r) = rcosθ ; y(θ,r) = rsinθ ; z(θ,r) = 0 [0≤θ≤2π],[0≤r≤a]

And then I get lost, other examples I have tried to understand the method from are going straight over my head, any help much appreciated.
 
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Take a stab at writing down the integral on the lefthand side. Surely you can at least write down ##\nabla\times\vec{A}## in terms of the cylindrical coordinates now.
 
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∇×A in cylindrical coordinates is (3acosθ,-asinθ,-2(z+asinθ)) and then I integrate w.r.t. θ and z?
 
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It depends on which surface you're integrating over. The integral over ##\Sigma## will be the sum of the integral over the bottom and the integral over the wall.
 
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NuclearMeerkat said:
∇×A = (3x,-y,-2(z+y))

I have parametric equation for wall and bottom:
Wall: x(θ,z) = acosθ ; y(θ,z) = asinθ ; z(θ,z) = z [0≤θ≤2π],[0≤z≤h]
Bottom: x(θ,r) = rcosθ ; y(θ,r) = rsinθ ; z(θ,r) = 0 [0≤θ≤2π],[0≤r≤a]

And then I get lost, other examples I have tried to understand the method from are going straight over my head, any help much appreciated.

NuclearMeerkat said:
∇×A in cylindrical coordinates is (3acosθ,-asinθ,-2(z+asinθ)) and then I integrate w.r.t. θ and z?

For the lateral side you have ##\vec R(\theta,z) = \langle a\cos\theta,a\sin\theta,z\rangle##. Now you need to calculate$$
d\Sigma=\pm \vec R_z\times \vec R_\theta$$with the sign chosen to agree with the orientation. Then you will be ready to integrate$$
\iint_\Sigma \nabla \times \vec F\cdot d\Sigma$$
 
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Rz = (0,0,1) and Rθ = (-asinθ,acosθ,0)
use -Rz because it the bottom face

giving dΣ = (-acosθ,asinθ,0)

therefore the integral is ∫dz (3x,-y,-2(z+y))⋅(-acosθ,asinθ,0)
 
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NuclearMeerkat said:
Rz = (0,0,1) and Rθ = (-asinθ,acosθ,0)
use -Rz because it the bottom face

You have two surfaces, the lateral surface and the bottom face. Don't mix them up or combine them.

giving dΣ = (-acosθ,asinθ,0)

therefore the integral is ∫dz (3x,-y,-2(z+y))⋅(-acosθ,asinθ,0)

I assume you are doing the lateral surface here. Your ##d\Sigma## has a sign error and it needs ##d\theta dz##. Also your integral must be in terms of those variables.
 

FAQ: Verification of Stoke's Theorem for a Cylinder

What is Stoke's Theorem for a Cylinder?

Stoke's Theorem is a mathematical formula that relates the surface integral of a vector field over a closed surface to the line integral of the vector field around the boundary of the surface. In the case of a cylinder, this theorem allows us to calculate the total flux of a vector field through the curved surface of a cylinder by integrating around its circular base.

How is Stoke's Theorem used to verify the flux through a cylinder?

To verify Stoke's Theorem for a cylinder, we first need to define a vector field and a parametrization of the cylinder's surface. Then, we can calculate the surface integral of the vector field over the curved surface of the cylinder and the line integral of the vector field around the base of the cylinder. If the two values are equal, we can conclude that Stoke's Theorem holds for the given cylinder and vector field.

Can Stoke's Theorem be used for any type of cylinder?

Yes, Stoke's Theorem can be used to verify the flux through any type of cylinder, as long as the surface and boundary are well-defined and the vector field is continuous on the surface and its boundary.

What are some real-world applications of Stoke's Theorem for a Cylinder?

Stoke's Theorem has many applications in physics and engineering, such as calculating the flow of fluid through a pipe or the electric field around a charged cylindrical object. It is also used in computer graphics to render smooth surfaces and in fluid dynamics to study the motion of fluids in pipes and channels.

Can Stoke's Theorem be extended to other shapes besides a cylinder?

Yes, Stoke's Theorem can be extended to any closed surface with a well-defined boundary. This includes not only cylinders but also spheres, cubes, and more complex shapes. As long as the surface and boundary are continuous and the vector field is well-behaved, Stoke's Theorem can be applied to calculate the flux through any closed surface.

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