Vertical motion with retarding force

In summary, the conversation is about someone seeking help with deriving the velocity of a projectile fired vertically through a retarding force. They are having trouble understanding how the equation for velocity is derived and are looking for clarification. They eventually figure out that the constant c can be found by substituting t = 0 and v = v0. This leads to the final equation v = (dy/dt) = (-g/k) + ((kv0 + g)/k)e^-kt.
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Hello everyone, I've used these forums quite a bit and found it very helpful thanks for all you kind souls helping us through the sciences, but today is my first post :P

I am deriving the velocity of a projectile fired vertically through a retarding force and I continue getting every step the same as the book until the last equation, it may be due to it being nearly 2 in the morning but I wanted to see others thoughts on it to help me learn the reasoning better. (And oh yeah this retarding force is only linear to the velocity)

so if we have:

-mg - km[tex]\dot{y}[/tex] = m[tex]\ddot{y}[/tex]

we can easily work to

-g - k[tex]\dot{y}[/tex] = [tex]\ddot{y}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/tex] = -g - kv

dv = dt(-g - kv)

[tex]\int\frac{dv}{g + kv}[/tex] = -[tex]\int{dt}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{k}[/tex] ln(g + kv) = -t + c

ln(g + kv) = -kt + c

g + kv = [tex]e^{-kt + c}[/tex]

This is where the book and I agree to

but then it arrives to

v = [tex]\frac{dy}{dt}[/tex] = -[tex]\frac{g}{k}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{kv_0 + g}{k} e^{-kt}[/tex]

Can someone explain to me how it arrives there? Thank you so much!
 
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:)

Just notice, you can find c when t = 0, v = v0:

ln(g + kv) = -kt + c =>
ln(g + kv0) = -k.0 + c <=>
c = ln(g + kv0)

So,
g + kv = [tex]e^{-kt + c}[/tex] <=>
g + kv = [tex]e^{-kt + ln(g + kv0)}[/tex] <=>
g + kv = [tex]e^{-kt}[/tex].(g + kv0)
 
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ah ok perfect thanks a bunch I kept going around in circles with it last night.
 

FAQ: Vertical motion with retarding force

What is vertical motion with retarding force?

Vertical motion with retarding force is a type of motion where an object is moving vertically and experiences a force that opposes its motion, causing it to slow down or come to a stop.

What are some examples of retarding forces in vertical motion?

Some examples of retarding forces in vertical motion include air resistance, friction, and drag. These forces act in the opposite direction of an object's motion and decrease its overall speed.

How does retarding force affect the motion of an object?

Retarding force decreases the acceleration of an object and causes it to slow down. If the retarding force is greater than the force propelling the object, it can eventually bring the object to a stop.

How is the velocity of an object affected by retarding force?

The velocity of an object is directly affected by retarding force. As the force acts on the object, it causes a decrease in velocity, leading to a decrease in speed and ultimately a change in direction.

How is the concept of terminal velocity related to vertical motion with retarding force?

Terminal velocity is the point at which the force of gravity is equal to the retarding force acting on an object, resulting in a constant velocity. In vertical motion with retarding force, an object will reach terminal velocity when the retarding force is equal to or greater than the force of gravity.

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