Volume of Revolution: Cylinders vs Washers

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the volume of a solid bounded by two curves when rotated around a specific axis. The two methods used are using washers and using cylinders, with the latter resulting in the correct answer. However, there is a discrepancy in the answer using washers, which is found to be incorrect due to the incorrect setup of the integral. The correct setup for the washers method should have the radius as 1-y instead of y, resulting in the correct answer of 7pi/30.
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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the solid bounded by the curves [tex] y = x^{1/3} [/tex] and [tex] y = x [/tex] when rotated around y=1.

Homework Equations



Volume with washers:

[tex] V = \pi \int R(x)^{2}-r(x)^{2} dx [/tex]

where R(x) and r(x) are functions of x defining the inner and outer radii of the washers

Volume with cylinders:

[tex] V = 2 \pi \int R(x)*h(x) dx [/tex]

where R(x) is a function of x (or just x) to define the radius of the cylinder and h(x) is a function of x to define the height of the cylinder (could be two functions minus one another)

The Attempt at a Solution



I did this both with cylinders and washers and get the right answer with cylinder but am 1/30 units off of the correct answer with washers, can anyone tell me why?

First with cylinders:

[tex] 2 \pi \int_{0}^{1} y * (y-y^{3}) dy = 2 \pi \int_{0}^{1} y^{2}-y^{4}dy [/tex]

[tex] 2 \pi \int_{0}^{1} y^{2}-y^{4}dy = 2 \pi ( \frac {y^{3}}{3}-\frac {y^{5}}{5}) [/tex]

evaluate at 1 and 0:

[tex] 2 \pi ( \frac {1}{3} - \frac {1}{5}) = \frac {4 \pi} {15} [/tex]

which is correct, now with washers:

[tex] \pi \int_{0}^{1} (1-x)^{2} - (1-x^{1/3})^{2} dx[/tex]

[tex] \pi \int_{0}^{1} 1-2x+x^{2}- (1-2x^{1/3}+x^{2/3}) dx [/tex]

[tex] \pi \int_{0}^{1} -2x +x^{2}+2x^{1/3}-x^{2/3} dx [/tex]

[tex] \pi ( -x^{2} + \frac {x^{3}}{3} + \frac {3x^{4/3}}{2} - \frac {3x^{5/3}}{5}) [/tex]

evaluate at 1 and 0:

[tex] \pi (-1+\frac{1}{3}+\frac{3}{2}-\frac{3}{5})=\frac{7 \pi}{30} [/tex]

Also maple confirms that these are the answers to these two integrals so I must be setting up the second one wrong but i have it all drawn out huge on my blackboard and can not see how you would say anything is different. It must be though! Please help me see where I went wrong here!

thanks!
 
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Are you sure the answer you got using cylinders is correct? Since you are rotating the region about y=1, the radii of your cylinders should be 1-y rather than y.
 
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Yeah man, i am sure that's what it says although I asked my teacher today and you are right the shells are suppose to be 1-y as the radius and the correct answer is 7pi/30. She said that they must have screwed up when filling in the answer.

Thanks for pointing out that if the radius was 1-y then it comes out equal to the first integral with respect to x.
 

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