Water Drain Channel minimal cross-section

In summary, the "Water Drain Channel minimal cross-section" refers to the smallest cross-sectional design of a drainage channel that effectively manages water flow while minimizing material use and construction costs. It focuses on optimizing hydraulic performance, ensuring adequate capacity to prevent flooding, and accommodating various environmental conditions. The design balances efficiency with structural integrity, often incorporating elements that enhance water quality and promote ecological benefits.
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Drain channel minimal cross-section
Hi there!
I'm looking for an approx. minimal size for a drain channel where condensation water can go through. Can anyone have some advice?
No increased pressure for the water, just the normal atmospheric pressure. Water condensing and just have to be able to get out.
The amount of water is small, let's say 50-100ml/hours.

Attached the first draft of the channel. Smallest cross-section:
drain channel size.jpg
drain channel size - cross section.jpg


Any standards (if exists) could be good too, so I can refer to it.

Thanks!
Regards,
Ádám
 
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addibigg said:
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let's say 50-100ml/hours
That's around a dripping tap. Unless it's some really special area of application I would not try to overthink this.

Without knowing the area of application, it's hard to talk about requirements...

My only thought about this is that stale water often prone to biological activity => clogging => you may need to provide means for cleaning.
 
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Rive said:
Without knowing the area of application, it's hard to talk about requirements...

My only thought about this is that stale water often prone to biological activity => clogging => you may need to provide means for cleaning.
True.
If the area is not subjected to UV sunlight, consider waxing the surface, so beads of water then run off cleanly.
 
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That could be a challenging problem. In order for water to flow, there must be a pressure difference. That difference can be quite small, but it must have a downhill gradient. For example, the gradient of the Mississippi River is only a few inches per mile. Mechanical engineers refer to the gradient as head loss.

Flow vs head loss is calculated using a Moody chart (search the term). You will find that you have a very low Reynolds Number, so you may need to calculate it using the equation on the chart for friction factor in laminar flow.

Your flow channel is not a round pipe running full, so you will need to calculate the hydraulic radius (another term to search), and use that number in the head loss equation. Interesting side note: In some circumstances, a round pipe will flow more water when partly full than when running full. This is a very real situation in culvert flow.

At the size of the flow channel, water surface tension will be significant. The water may not want to enter the channel at all. You may need some way to accumulate enough water that the pressure head will push it into the channel. Or add some soap to reduce surface tension. Or make the channel from a material that bonds to water so that it does not bead up. This calls for some experiments.
 
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Or make the channel from a material that bonds to water so that it does not bead up. This calls for some experiments.
There are always too many possible solutions to an under-specified problem.
A wick could lead the water over a ridge, like a siphon, while an area of felt could evaporate a condensate back into the air.
 
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FAQ: Water Drain Channel minimal cross-section

What is the minimal cross-section for a water drain channel?

The minimal cross-section for a water drain channel is typically determined by the hydraulic requirements of the system, including factors such as flow rate, channel slope, and the type of materials used. Generally, a trapezoidal or rectangular shape is preferred, and the dimensions should accommodate the expected peak flow without causing overflow or blockages.

How do you calculate the minimal cross-section for a drain channel?

To calculate the minimal cross-section for a drain channel, you can use the Manning's equation to determine the flow capacity based on the channel's shape, slope, and roughness coefficient. The equation takes into account the cross-sectional area and hydraulic radius to ensure that the channel can handle the desired flow rate effectively.

What factors influence the design of a water drain channel's cross-section?

Several factors influence the design of a water drain channel's cross-section, including the expected flow rate, soil type, channel slope, rainfall intensity, and environmental considerations. Additionally, local regulations and the presence of vegetation or urban infrastructure may also impact the design requirements.

What materials are commonly used for constructing water drain channels?

Common materials used for constructing water drain channels include concrete, reinforced concrete, brick, stone, and plastic. The choice of material often depends on factors such as durability, cost, environmental impact, and the specific conditions of the site where the channel will be installed.

How can maintenance affect the minimal cross-section of a water drain channel?

Maintenance is crucial for ensuring that a water drain channel maintains its minimal cross-section. Accumulation of debris, sediment, and vegetation can reduce the effective cross-section, leading to reduced flow capacity and potential flooding. Regular inspections and maintenance activities are necessary to keep the channel clear and functioning optimally.

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