Wave Equation in 2 Dimensions - Basic

In summary, the person is trying to find solutions to the wave equation for a particle in two spatial dimensions. However, they are having trouble finding solutions because they have not worked on partial differential equations before. They are looking for help from someone who has more experience in this area.
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DougD720
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Hey Everyone,

So I've been working on some very basic QM mathematics. Basically I've worked out the wave equation for a particle in one dimension (briefly) like so:

Code:
-[tex]\frac{\hbar [SUP]2[/SUP]}{2m}[/tex][tex]\psi[/tex]"(x) + V(x)[tex]\psi[/tex](x) = E[tex]\psi[/tex](x)

V = 0 for 0 < x < L  ; (L = "Length" of the Boundary)

=> [tex]\psi[/tex](x) = A sin([tex]\frac{n \pi x}{L}[/tex])

=> A = [tex]\frac{L}{2}[/tex]

The trouble I'm having is trying to extrapolate this to two spatial dimensions (if that can be done in the fashion I'm trying).

I follow the same process except my solution to the Schrodinger equation (solution to the differential equation) is

Code:
[tex]\psi[/tex](x,y) = A sin([tex]\frac{n \pi x}{L}[/tex]) + B sin([tex]\frac{n \pi y}{L}[/tex])

A[SUP]2[/SUP]([tex]\frac{L}{2}[/tex])y + B[SUP]2[/SUP]([tex]\frac{L}{2}[/tex])x = 1

^ From Normalizing the Solution with Limits of integration for the double integral of 0 < (x,y) < L

The problem is that instead of finding the 'constants' A and B I've now got a relationship between them.

If someone could point out what I did wrong in my process (determine the wave equation differential equation, normalize and solve) and if that's alright where I go from here in writing the full wave-function of the model, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
 
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Why do you think you can simply add solutions? You can use the method of separation of variables to find solutions of the form [tex]\psi (x,y) = X(x)Y(y)[/tex] however. To be sure, plug your solution into the equation and you'll see that it isn't a solution.
 
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Thank you, I'll work that one out
 
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I'm in need of some direction... I have differential equation experience and partial integrals/derivatives but I believe this is a partial differential equation now that both the x and y variables have been introduced and I have not worked on partial diff eqs. Where do I start to tackle this one? I tried a few solutions with a guess and check and none of them have worked and I'm a bit stuck with this one. Any help would be appreciated, thank you
 
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Well, you should find a section on Separation of Variables in your QM text if you have one or a book on PDE's. You seem like you have an understanding enough for me to just say the following: Look for solutions of the form [tex]\psi (x,y) = X(x)Y(y)[/tex] . Your Hamiltonian now is the 2-D Laplacian so your DE looks like [tex]\frac{{ - h^2 }}{{2m}}(\frac{{\partial ^2 }}{{\partial x^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 }}{{\partial y^2 }})\psi (x,y) = E\psi (x,y)[/tex]. There's some math that shows the solution form we have is valid so you can check that out on your own.

Now simple arranging shows this is also [tex]\frac{{\partial ^2 \psi (x,y)}}{{\partial x^2 }} + \frac{{\partial ^2 \psi (x,y)}}{{\partial y^2 }} = \frac{{ - 2mE}}{{h^2 }}\psi (x,y)[/tex]. At this point, you plug in your solution [tex]\psi (x,y) = X(x)Y(y)[/tex]. At this point you can do some slight manipulations and what you'll get is basically 2 separated ODE's summing to 0. For PDE's, the only way this is possible is if both ODE's are equal to a constant (otherwise you couldn't have independent variations between x and y which is a requirement from your DE). Make up a set of constants, say m and -m and from there, solve the ODE's and look back on your solution form and construct your wavefunction.
 
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I don't have a QM text but I know of separation of variables from diff. eq. I have to take the time to read through your explanation but from skimming it it looks like I can follow your steps. Thank you!
 

FAQ: Wave Equation in 2 Dimensions - Basic

What is the wave equation in 2 dimensions and what does it represent?

The wave equation in 2 dimensions is a mathematical model used to describe the behavior of waves in 2-dimensional space. It is a second-order partial differential equation that relates the rate of change of a wave to its spatial and temporal properties. This equation is often used in physics and engineering to understand and predict the behavior of various types of waves, such as sound waves, electromagnetic waves, and water waves.

How is the wave equation in 2 dimensions different from the 1-dimensional wave equation?

The 2-dimensional wave equation differs from the 1-dimensional wave equation in that it takes into account the wave's behavior in both the x and y directions. This means that the wave equation in 2 dimensions has two independent variables, while the 1-dimensional wave equation only has one. Additionally, the 2-dimensional wave equation has two partial derivatives, one for each direction, while the 1-dimensional wave equation only has one.

What are the key parameters in the 2-dimensional wave equation?

The key parameters in the 2-dimensional wave equation are the wave speed, the spatial coordinates x and y, and the time variable t. The wave speed, denoted by c, is a constant that represents how fast the wave moves through the medium. The spatial coordinates x and y represent the position of a point on the wave in 2-dimensional space, and the time variable t represents the time elapsed since the wave started.

What are the boundary conditions for the 2-dimensional wave equation?

The boundary conditions for the 2-dimensional wave equation depend on the type of wave being studied and the medium through which it is propagating. Generally, the boundary conditions specify the behavior of the wave at the edges of the medium or at specific points in space. For example, the boundary conditions for a sound wave in a closed room may specify that the wave is reflected off the walls, while the boundary conditions for an electromagnetic wave may specify that the wave passes through a material with a certain index of refraction.

How is the 2-dimensional wave equation solved?

The 2-dimensional wave equation is typically solved using various mathematical techniques, such as separation of variables, Fourier series, or Green's functions. These methods involve breaking down the equation into simpler parts and finding a solution that satisfies both the original equation and the specified boundary conditions. In some cases, numerical methods such as finite difference or finite element methods may also be used to solve the 2-dimensional wave equation.

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