Wave particle duailty, boundry between classic and the quantum world

In summary, matter has the ability to function as both a particle and a wave, as seen in experiments with light, electrons, and even macroscopic objects. While there is no clear boundary between the classical and quantum worlds, the phenomenon of decoherence explains the appearance of a classical world from the underlying quantum reality. While there is no definitive answer to the question of when matter stops behaving as both a particle and a wave, modern theories and experiments continue to push the boundaries and provide new insights into the nature of the universe.
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At what point does matter stop having the ability to function as both a particle and a wave?
In the early 1800s Thomas young created a double slit experiment, where light passed threw two slits and created an interference pattern. This meant light was both a particle and a wave. In 1961 Claus Jonsson repeated the experiment with electrons. First he shot electrons threw one slit getting a pattern of .. one slit. Then he shot them threw two slits expecting to get two slits but instead he got an interference pattern. This means matter itself has the ability to act as both a particle and a wave. He wondered how this was possible and set up an electron detector to see how this was happening and repeated the experiment. This time he got two slits. Matter acted as a particle again just by being observed.
Later this experiment was repeated with the same results with bucky balls made of 60 carbon atoms and then even later completed with a 240 atom object.
Most recent and the most interesting Andrew Cleland of the university of California witnessed a mechanical resonator on a macroscopic scale (big enough to be seen with the naked eye) in a state of superposition. Could this thin disc made of aluminium nitrate, consisting of around a trillion atoms, be a link between our classical and the quantum world of the weird?
 
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These experiments are wonderful. But they probably do not address the foundations of quantum mechanics, since these experiments just seem to confirm quantum mechanics at larger and larger scales. We already have reason to believe that quantum mechanics applies at the very largest scales http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_04.htm.

But if they do detect a failure of quantum mechanics, then that would affect quantum foundations. Here is one proposal to test a theory that predicts deviations from quantum mechanics:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1405.2868
Optomechanical sensing of spontaneous wave-function collapse
Stefan Nimmrichter, Klaus Hornberger, Klemens Hammerer
 
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soulmartyr said:
At what point does matter stop having the ability to function as both a particle and a wave?

Well that's not the correct way of looking at it.

Really its not a particle or a wave or a particle and a wave - its quantum stuff.

See the FAQ:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=511178

While the above is about photons its thrust is true for all particles. Indeed in Quantum Field Theory, which is our most advanced quantum formalism, to which QM is just an approximation, everything is a quantum field and that can't be viewed in such simplistic terms as a particle or a wave.

But to get to the thrust of your query there is no boundary between the classical and the quantum world - everything is quantum. But due to the phenomena of decoherence our everyday world appears classical. This is the modern resolution to the issue with the Copenhagen interpretation that divides the world into classical and quantum:
http://motls.blogspot.com.au/2011/05/copenhagen-interpretation-of-quantum.html

You will find a detailed discussion in Omnes book:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691004358/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Thanks
Bill
 
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1. What is wave-particle duality?

Wave-particle duality is the concept that particles, such as electrons, can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior. This means that they can have properties of both waves and particles, depending on how they are observed or measured.

2. How does wave-particle duality challenge classical physics?

Wave-particle duality challenges classical physics because it shows that particles can have wave-like properties, which goes against the classical idea that particles are solid, distinct objects. This concept also challenges the idea that particles have a definite position and momentum at all times.

3. What is the boundary between the classical and quantum world?

The boundary between the classical and quantum world is often referred to as the Planck scale, which is the smallest scale at which classical physics can accurately describe the behavior of particles. At this scale, particles start to exhibit quantum behavior and the laws of classical physics are no longer applicable.

4. How does the observer affect the behavior of particles in wave-particle duality?

The observer plays a crucial role in wave-particle duality. The act of observing or measuring a particle can cause it to behave either as a wave or a particle. This is known as the observer effect and highlights the interconnectedness between the observer and the observed in quantum mechanics.

5. Is it possible to fully understand the concept of wave-particle duality?

The concept of wave-particle duality is still being studied and debated by scientists. While we have a good understanding of how it works, there are still many unanswered questions and mysteries surrounding this phenomenon. It is possible that we may never fully understand it, but we continue to make progress in our understanding through ongoing research and experimentation.

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