We have y''(t)=B x y'(t), where y:R->R^3

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In summary: Well, you could use the chain rule:$$\dot{y}_{1}\dot{y}_{1}=\frac{1}{\dot{y}}\dot{y}_{1}+\frac{1}{2}\dot{y}_{2}+\frac{1}{3}\dot{y}_{3}.$$So, in summary, In summary, the speed of the particle is constant. The component of the particle's velocity in the direction of the vector B is also constant.
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We have y''(t)=B x y'(t), where y:R->R^3, and B is a constant vector in R^3

1)If y represents a trajectory of a particle, show the speed of the particle is constant.

2)Show that the component of the particle's velocity in the direction of the vector B is also constant.

My thoughts: For 1) I think I may need to show that y''(t) is normal to y(t).
For 2) If y'(t) is in the direction of B, then is y'(t) x B=0.
 
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1) There's probably something "clever" you can do with this part. Perhaps you could do this:

\begin{align*}
\ddot{\mathbf{y}}&=\mathbf{B}\times \dot{\mathbf{y}}\\
\ddot{\mathbf{y}}\cdot \dot{\mathbf{y}}&=(\mathbf{B}\times \dot{\mathbf{y}})\cdot \dot{\mathbf{y}}.
\end{align*}
What is the RHS now? Could you then do something to this equation that would give you $\dot{\mathbf{y}}\cdot \dot{\mathbf{y}}=(\dot{y})^{2}$ on the LHS?

2) What you've written is correct, but I'm not sure it'll help you much, though I could be wrong. You're interested in $\dot{\mathbf{y}}_{\mathbf{B}}$, my notation for the component of $\dot{\mathbf{y}}$ in the direction of $\mathbf{B}$. Note that if you take your original equation and dot it with $\dot{\mathbf{y}}_{\mathbf{B}}$, a similar sort of thing will happen to what happened in the first part. You might be able to work with that. Also note that
$$\dot{\mathbf{y}}_{\mathbf{B}}=\frac{\mathbf{B} \cdot \dot{ \mathbf{y}}}{\mathbf{B} \cdot \mathbf{B}}\,\mathbf{B},$$
which is the projection of the vector $\dot{\mathbf{y}}$ onto the vector $\mathbf{B}$. Basically, this expression answers the question, "How much of $\dot{\mathbf{y}}$ is in the direction of $\mathbf{B}$?"
 
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Poirot said:
We have y''(t)=B x y'(t), where y:R->R^3, and B is a constant vector in R^3

1)If y represents a trajectory of a particle, show the speed of the particle is constant.

2)Show that the component of the particle's velocity in the direction of the vector B is also constant.

My thoughts: For 1) I think I may need to show that y''(t) is normal to y(t).
For 2) If y'(t) is in the direction of B, then is y'(t) x B=0.

Trivially y'' is normal to y' since the direction of a cross product is normal to the plane defined by the two vectors being crossed.

You may without loss of generality assume \({\bf{B}}=(b,0,0)\), that is use a coordinate system with the x-axis pointing along the direction of the magnetic field. Then I would assume a trial solution of the form \( {\bf{y}}=[\dot{y}_1(0) t, \rho \cos(\omega t+\phi), \rho \sin(\omega t+\phi)]\).

If that works it will immediately answer part 2) as well.

You may ask why we would assume something like that, well it is because we know that an electron spirals around the direction of a magnetic field.

CB
 
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How do I get |y'(t)|^2 from y''(t).y'(t) and what are trying to achieve by this?
 
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How do I get |y'(t)|^2 from y''(t).y'(t) and what are trying to achieve by this?

The speed is equal to the magnitude of the velocity. One expression to obtain the speed is
$$s=\sqrt{v_{x}^{2}+v_{y}^{2}+v_{z}^{2}}=\sqrt{v_{x}\cdot v_{x}+v_{y}\cdot v_{y}+v_{z}\cdot v_{z}}=\sqrt{\mathbf{v}\cdot\mathbf{v}}.$$
Squaring both sides yields
$$s^{2}=\mathbf{v}\cdot\mathbf{v}.$$
In your case, $\mathbf{v}=\dot{\mathbf{y}}.$ So if you can obtain the expression $\dot{\mathbf{y}}\cdot\dot{\mathbf{y}}$, you take the square root, and you're done.

So, how can you get $\dot{\mathbf{y}}\cdot\dot{\mathbf{y}}$ from $\ddot{\mathbf{y}}\cdot\dot{\mathbf{y}}$? Well, supposing we write it out:
$$\ddot{y}_{1}\dot{y}_{1}+\ddot{y}_{2}\dot{y}_{2}+\ddot{y}_{3}\dot{y}_{3}.$$
Here I've switched to numbers for the indices to avoid confusion arising from the fact that we're using a non-standard notation for the trajectory. What we'd like to get at is
$$\dot{y}_{1} \dot{y}_{1}+\dot{y}_{2} \dot{y}_{2}+\dot{y}_{3} \dot{y}_{3}=
\dot{\mathbf{y}} \cdot \dot{\mathbf{y}}.$$

Now let's look at just one of those previous terms: $\ddot{y}_{1}\dot{y}_{1}$. Remember that each of those is a function of time. I have a function $\dot{y}_{1}$ times its derivative $\ddot{y}_{1}$, and I'd like an expression involving just the function $\dot{y}_{1}$. How could you get that?
 

FAQ: We have y''(t)=B x y'(t), where y:R->R^3

What does the equation "We have y''(t)=B x y'(t)" represent?

The equation represents a second-order differential equation with a vector-valued function y(t) as the dependent variable. B is a constant matrix and y'(t) is the first derivative of y(t).

What is the significance of the domain and range in this equation?

The domain, denoted as R, represents the set of all real numbers that t can take on. The range, denoted as R^3, represents the set of all possible values that the vector-valued function y(t) can take on.

How is this equation related to motion or dynamics?

This equation is commonly used in physics and engineering to model the motion or dynamics of a system. It describes how the acceleration of the system, represented by y''(t), is influenced by the velocity, represented by y'(t), and the constant matrix B.

Can you provide an example of a physical system that can be described by this equation?

Yes, a simple example would be a mass-spring system, where the position of the mass at any given time is represented by the vector-valued function y(t). The constant matrix B would depend on the properties of the spring and the mass, and the equation would describe the motion of the mass under the influence of the spring's force.

Are there any specific techniques or methods for solving this type of equation?

Yes, there are several techniques for solving second-order differential equations, such as separation of variables, variation of parameters, and Laplace transforms. In addition, numerical methods can also be used to approximate solutions for more complex systems.

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