Weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables, question

In summary, the problem being discussed is about real-valued random variables {Xn} and {Yn} that are weakly converging to X and Y, respectively. Both Xn and Yn are independent for all n, and X and Y are also independent. The fact that {Xn+Yn} is weakly converging to X+Y can be proven using characteristic functions and Levy's theorem. The question is whether a counterexample can be constructed if independence does not hold, to which the response is that setting Yn to be iid to -X instead of Y=-X could potentially work.
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vovchik
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Hi guys,

Problem: Let {Xn},{Yn} - real-valued random variables.
{Xn}-->{X} - weakly; {Yn}-->{Y} weakly.
Assume that Xn and Yn - independent for all n and that X and Y - are independent.
Fact that {Xn+Yn}-->{X+Y} weakly, can be shown using characteristic functions and Levy's theorem.

Question:
If independence does not hold, can you construct a counterexample?

I appreciate any help in advance.
 
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How about simply Yn = -Xn?
 
  • #3
bpet said:
How about simply Yn = -Xn?

This is not a counterexample Xn -> X, Yn -> Y (=-X) Xn + Yn -> 0 (= X + Y).
 
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mathman said:
This is not a counterexample Xn -> X, Yn -> Y (=-X) Xn + Yn -> 0 (= X + Y).

With weak convergence you could set Y iid to -X instead of Y=-X (so that X+Y <> 0 if X is non-trivial).
 
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Yes, it is possible to construct a counterexample where the weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables does not hold. Consider the following scenario:

Let {Xn} and {Yn} be two sequences of random variables such that Xn = Yn for all n. In other words, Xn and Yn are simply two different names for the same random variable. Now, let us define a new sequence of random variables {Zn} = {Xn + Yn}.

Since Xn and Yn are the same random variable, Zn = 2Xn for all n. Therefore, Zn is a constant random variable for all n.

Now, let X and Y be two independent random variables with X ~ N(0,1) and Y ~ N(0,1).

Using the Central Limit Theorem, it can be shown that {Xn} --> X and {Yn} --> Y weakly. However, {Zn} does not converge weakly to X + Y, since it is a constant random variable and X + Y is a non-constant random variable.

This counterexample shows that even if Xn and Yn converge weakly to X and Y respectively, the sum of dependent variables may not converge weakly to the sum of the limiting variables. Therefore, the assumption of independence is necessary for the weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables.
 

Related to Weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables, question

1. What is weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables?

Weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables refers to the convergence of a sequence of random variables whose sum is dependent on previous terms in the sequence. It is a type of convergence in probability, meaning that as the number of terms in the sequence increases, the probability that the sum of the variables will approach a certain value also increases.

2. How is weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables different from weak convergence of independent variables?

The main difference between weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables and weak convergence of independent variables is that dependent variables are not independent of each other, while independent variables are. This means that the sum of dependent variables is influenced by previous terms in the sequence, while the sum of independent variables is not.

3. What is the significance of studying weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables?

Studying weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables is important in understanding the behavior of sequences of random variables in real-world situations. It can help in predicting the behavior of complex systems where variables are dependent on each other, such as in economics, finance, and engineering.

4. How is weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables tested?

Weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables can be tested using various statistical tests, such as the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test, the Cramér-von Mises test, and the Anderson-Darling test. These tests compare the observed data to the theoretical distribution to determine if the sum of dependent variables follows a certain probability distribution.

5. What are some real-world applications of weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables?

There are many real-world applications of weak convergence of the sum of dependent variables. For example, it can be used in finance to analyze the behavior of stock prices, in engineering to model the reliability of systems with dependent components, and in biology to study population dynamics. Additionally, it is also useful in analyzing data from surveys or experiments, where variables may be dependent on each other.

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