What are the 'closed geodesic' ?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of closed geodesics and their lengths in different surfaces such as a cylinder, sphere, and torus. The Selberg Trace formula is mentioned as a way to express a sum using the lengths of closed geodesics. The definition of closed geodesics is explained and it is noted that the torus has closed geodesics in the form of circles perpendicular to its axis.
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i have been reading about 'Selberg Trace formula'

i know what a Laplacian is but i do not know what is the author referring to when he talks about 'Closed Geodesic' i know what the Geodesic of a surface is

[tex] l(\gamma)=\int_\gamma \sqrt{ g(\dot\gamma(t),\dot\gamma(t)) }\,dt\ ,[/tex]

but i do not know what means 'closed' or why the geodesic of a torus would have the length (?) [tex] l_n =na [/tex] a=radius ??
 
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mhill said:
i know what a Laplacian is but i do not know what is the author referring to when he talks about 'Closed Geodesic' i know what the Geodesic of a surface is

[tex] l(\gamma)=\int_\gamma \sqrt{ g(\dot\gamma(t),\dot\gamma(t)) }\,dt\ ,[/tex]

but i do not know what means 'closed' or why the geodesic of a torus would have the length (?) [tex] l_n =na [/tex] a=radius ??

Hi mhill! :smile:

"closed" simply means that the geodesic meets itself, so it has a finite length.

If the tangent of the angle to one axis is a rational multiple of the ratio of the axes, then it will meet itself. If irrational, it will go on for ever. :smile:

n is the number of turns "through the hole" before the geodesic joins up. The more turns, the longer the geodesic (though I must admit, I don't see why it's proportional :redface:).
 
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thanks tiny-tim, then you mean that a geodesic will be closed if for example x(a)=x(b) , so there is a point where the geodesic intersect itself.

and for the 'Selberg Trace' is there a pedestrian proof or a proof that a profane non-mathematician could understand ??
 
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mhill said:
thanks tiny-tim, then you mean that a geodesic will be closed if for example x(a)=x(b) , so there is a point where the geodesic intersect itself.

Hi mhill! :smile:

"a point" is rather an understatement … it intersects itself everywhere, an infinite number of times. :wink:
and for the 'Selberg Trace' is there a pedestrian proof or a proof that a profane non-mathematician could understand ??

Sorry … I've no idea what a Selberg trace is. :redface:
 
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For a cylinder the closed geodesics are the circles perpendicular to the axis of the cylinder.

For a sphere the closed geodesics are the great circles.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
For a cylinder the closed geodesics are the circles perpendicular to the axis of the cylinder.

For a sphere the closed geodesics are the great circles.
Hi HallsofIvy! :smile:

You missed the torus :wink::
mhill said:
i have been reading about 'Selberg Trace formula'

but i do not know what means 'closed' or why the geodesic of a torus would have the length (?) [tex] l_n =na [/tex] a=radius ??
 

FAQ: What are the 'closed geodesic' ?

What is a closed geodesic?

A closed geodesic is a curve on a surface that is the shortest path between two points on that surface. It is also known as a geodesic loop or a closed curve.

What surfaces can have closed geodesics?

Closed geodesics can exist on any surface that has a metric, which includes common surfaces such as spheres, cubes, and cylinders. They can also exist on more complex surfaces, such as the surface of a torus or a Möbius strip.

How is a closed geodesic different from a regular curve?

A closed geodesic is a special type of curve that has the property of being the shortest path between two points on a surface. This means that it has a constant curvature along its entire length, and it is the only curve that satisfies this property.

Why are closed geodesics important in mathematics?

Closed geodesics have many applications in mathematics, including in the study of geometry and topology. They are also important in fields such as physics and computer graphics, where they can be used to model natural phenomena and create realistic simulations.

Can closed geodesics exist in higher dimensions?

Yes, closed geodesics can exist in any number of dimensions. In fact, some of the most interesting and complex closed geodesics have been discovered in higher dimensional spaces. Their study has important applications in fields such as theoretical physics and cosmology.

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