What Are the Final Speeds of a Material Point and a Wedge Without Friction?

In summary: However, in my problem, the other object has a much greater initial speed than the mass. So, if I use the equation for the point of maximum height, the other object will have a much greater speed than the mass and it will not be in contact with the mass.
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Karozo
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Homework Statement



I think that the image is clear.
There isn't friction, not the material point with wedge, not the wedge with the floor.

At time t=0 the material point start to move, I need to find the final speed of the two objects at time [itex]t\rightarrow\infty[/itex].

Homework Equations



I have used conservation of energy and momentum.

The Attempt at a Solution



So I have two equation:
[itex]\frac{1}{2}m{v_m}^2+\frac{1}{2}M{v_M}^2 = mgR[/itex]

[itex]m{v_m}+M{v_M}=0[/itex]

And the solution is [itex]{v_m}=\sqrt{\frac{mgR}{\frac{1}{2}m+\frac{1}{2}\frac{m^2}{M}}}[/itex]

Am I wrong?
 

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It can be simplified, but it looks okay. What about the velocity of the other object?
 
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Well, if [itex]V_m[/itex] is right is very simple to find [itex]V_M[/itex], so I haven't written it.
 
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I have also a similar problem, you can see the image.

In this the mass m, start with an initial speed [itex]v_0[/itex], you have to find [itex]v_0[/itex] so that the material point has maximum height R.

I think that is right to use the two equations:

[itex]\frac{1}{2}m{v_m}^2+\frac{1}{2}M{v_M}^2+mgR=\frac{1}{2}m{v_0}^2[/itex] energy

[itex]m{v_m}+M{v_M}=mv_0[/itex] momentum

for the point of maximum height, and then you have [itex]{v_m}={v_M}[/itex] , because the two bodies are in contact.
 

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Karozo said:
I have also a similar problem, you can see the image.
Next time, you should put a new problem in a new thread.

In this the mass m, start with an initial speed [itex]v_0[/itex], you have to find [itex]v_0[/itex] so that the material point has maximum height R.

I think that is right to use the two equations:

[itex]\frac{1}{2}m{v_m}^2+\frac{1}{2}M{v_M}^2+mgR=\frac{1}{2}m{v_0}^2[/itex] energy

[itex]m{v_m}+M{v_M}=mv_0[/itex] momentum

for the point of maximum height, and then you have [itex]{v_m}={v_M}[/itex] , because the two bodies are in contact.
That appears correct.
 

FAQ: What Are the Final Speeds of a Material Point and a Wedge Without Friction?

What is a material point?

A material point is a concept used in physics to represent a point in space with mass but no size. It is often used in simplifying the analysis of objects in motion.

What is a curve wedge?

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