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apeiron
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Naty1 said:I'd be interested if you guys that have been in the thick of the discussion could agree on a list of issues/uncertainties...
I'm not too sure what even the question is here
But the standard lament in the systems science circles in which I move is that standard issue reductionist modelling - the modern information theoretic approach being its latest form - manages to leave out essential aspects of reality, such as meaning, observers, and other contextual or global factors.
So aim number one would be to provide an alternative model in which these kinds of things get represented again.
In practice, the standard view of information is that bits just exist. They are substantial locales just waiting to be counted. No meanings are implicit in their existence, no observers are required.
The systems view would then be - at least my version of it - that bits can only exist within bit-shaping contexts. So we have a dyadic or dichotomistic story. The existence of a bit implies the existence of a matching context. And the nature of this relationship can then be generalised mathematically in the language of symmetry, symmetry-breaking and asymmetry. Hopefully.