What Are the Physics Behind a Girl Pulling a Sled on Ice?

In summary, the problem involves a 40 kg girl and an 8.4 kg sled connected by a rope on a frictionless frozen lake. The girl exerts a 5.2 N force on the rope, producing accelerations of 0.62 m/s2 for the sled and 0.13 m/s2 for the girl. To determine their meeting point, the equations XG + XS = 15 and XG = 1/2*ag*t2 and XS = 1/2*as*t2 are used, resulting in a meeting point at 2.58 meters from the girl's initial position.
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hansel13
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I'm not sure what the rules are about posting homework problems, but I just had 2 I couldn't get around too, so here's the second one...

Homework Statement


A 40 kg girl and a 8.4 kg sled are on the frictionless ice of a frozen lake, 15m apart but connected by a rope of negligible mass. The girl exerts a horizontal 5.2 N force on the rope.
What are the acceleration magnitudes of
(a) the sledge?
(b) the girl?
(c) How far from the girl's initial position do they meet?

Homework Equations


f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Finding the answers to part a and b were simple..
(a) a = f/m = 5.2N/8.4kg = .62 m/s2
(b) a = f/m = 5.2N/40kg = .13 m/s2
(c) I'm having problems figuring out part C.
 
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hansel13 said:
I'm not sure what the rules are about posting homework problems, but I just had 2 I couldn't get around too, so here's the second one...

Homework Statement


A 40 kg girl and a 8.4 kg sled are on the frictionless ice of a frozen lake, 15m apart but connected by a rope of negligible mass. The girl exerts a horizontal 5.2 N force on the rope.
What are the acceleration magnitudes of
(a) the sledge?
(b) the girl?
(c) How far from the girl's initial position do they meet?

Homework Equations


f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


Finding the answers to part a and b were simple..
(a) a = f/m = 5.2N/8.4kg = .62 m/s2
(b) a = f/m = 5.2N/40kg = .13 m/s2
(c) I'm having problems figuring out part C.

Write equations for their positions
XG + XS = 15
XG = 1/2*ag*t2
XS = 1/2*as*t2

Solve noting that t2 is the same when they meet
 
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1/2*ag*t2+1/2*as*t2= 15

t2 = 15 / (1/2*ag +1/2*as)
t2 = 15 / (1/2*.62 +1/2*.13)
t2 = 40
t = 6.3m

That doesn't seem right, I'm lost.
 
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hansel13 said:
1/2*ag*t2+1/2*as*t2= 15

t2 = 15 / (1/2*ag +1/2*as)
t2 = 15 / (1/2*.62 +1/2*.13)
t2 = 40
t = 6.3m

That doesn't seem right, I'm lost.

Not quite. That gives you seconds.

XG = 1/2*ag*t2 = 1/2*(.13)*(6.3)2 = 2.58m
 
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LowlyPion said:
Not quite. That gives you seconds.

XG = 1/2*ag*t2 = 1/2*(.13)*(6.3)2 = 2.58m

ahh. Gotcha, thanks.
 

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The concept of "Forces of girl on a sled" refers to the physical forces that are acting on a girl who is riding a sled. These forces include gravity, friction, and air resistance.

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