What are the restrictions for s and how to find them in Laplace transform?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the solution of the equation y'(x)+5y(x)=e^{-x} with given initial conditions, using the Laplace transform. The discussion includes finding restrictions for s, decomposing Y(s) using partial fractions, and determining the inverse Laplace transform of Y(s). The conversation also touches on the singularities of the Laplace transform and the final representation of Y(s) in terms of inverse Laplace transforms.
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Hello! :D
I have to find the solution of the equation [tex] y'(x)+5y(x)=e^{-x} , 0<x<\infty , y(0)=2 [/tex] , using the Laplace transform.
That's what I have done so far:
$$L\{y'(x)+5y(x)\}=L\{e^{-x}\}$$
$$L\{y'(x)\}+5L\{y(x)\}=L\{e^{-x}\}$$
$$sY(s)-y(0)+5Y(s)=\frac{1}{s+1}$$
$$Y(s)=\frac{2s+3}{(s+1)(s+5)}$$

But...which are the restrictions for s?How can I find them? :confused:
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

I'm not sure what you mean by restrictions on $s$.

But the next step would be to decompose $Y(s)$ using partial fractions in order to find the inverse Laplace transform of $Y(s)$ (i.e., y(x)).
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

Random Variable said:
I'm not sure what you mean by restrictions on $s$.

But the next step would be to decompose $Y(s)$ using partial fractions to find the inverse Laplace transform of $Y(s)$ (i.e., y(x)).

Should [tex](s+1)(s+5)[/tex] be greater than [tex]0[/tex]?
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

evinda said:
Should [tex](s+1)(s+5)[/tex] be greater than [tex]0[/tex]?

I found that [tex]Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}\frac{1}{s+1}+\frac{7}{4}\frac{1}{s+5}[/tex].

But,before that,do I have to write what $s $should satisfy?
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

Then you would probably want the real part of $s$ to be greater than $-1$ so that both ILT exist.
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

Random Variable said:
Then you would probably want the real part of $s$ to be greater than $-1$ so that both ILT exist.

And how can I explain it,why it should be like that? :confused:
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

You can tell by where the LT has singularities.

Otherwise notice that the Laplace transform of $\displaystyle e^{-x}$ is $ \displaystyle \frac{1}{s+1}$.

But $ \displaystyle \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-x} e^{-sx} \ dx = \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-(1+s) x} \ dx $ converges only when $s > -1 $.Similarly the Laplace transform of $e^{-5x}$ is $\displaystyle \frac{1}{s+5}$.

But $ \displaystyle \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-5x} e^{-sx} \ dx = \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-(5+s) x} \ dx $ converges only when $s > -5 $.So if you want both transforms to exist at the same time, then $s$ should be greater than $-1$.
 
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Re: Question-Laplace trasform

Random Variable said:
You can tell by where the ILT has singularities.

Otherwise notice that the Laplace transform of $\displaystyle e^{-x}$ is $ \displaystyle \frac{1}{s+1}$.

But $ \displaystyle \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-x} e^{-sx} \ dx - \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-(1+s) x} \ dx $ converges only when $s > -1 $.Similarly the Laplace transform of $e^{-5x}$ is $\displaystyle \frac{1}{s+5}$.

But $ \displaystyle \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-5x} e^{-sx} \ dx - \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-(5+s) x} \ dx $ converges only when $s > -5 $.So if you want both transforms to exist at the same time, then $s$ (or technically the real part of $s$) should be greater than $-1$.
I understand..thanks for your answer!And $\int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-(1+s) x} \ dx $ is equal to $\left [\frac{e^{-(s+1)x}}{-(s+1)} \right ]_{0}^{M},M\to \infty=\frac{1}{s+1} $ .Right?
 
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Yes.

And those minus signs in my previous post should be equal signs.
 
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Random Variable said:
Yes.

And those minus signs in my previous post should be equal signs.

Nice..Thank you very much! :)
 
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I have also an other question.Do we conclude that $Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ ,or is $\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ equal to Y(x) or something else? :confused::confused:
 
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evinda said:
I have also an other question.Do we conclude that $Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ ,or is $\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ equal to Y(x) or something else? :confused::confused:

Or,is it like that $$Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$$
$$L^{-1}\{Y(s)\}=L^{-1}\{\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}\}$$ ??
 
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evinda said:
I have also an other question.Do we conclude that $Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ ,or is $\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$ equal to Y(x) or something else? :confused::confused:

evinda said:
Or,is it like that $$Y(s)=\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}$$
$$L^{-1}\{Y(s)\}=L^{-1}\{\frac{1}{4}L\{y_{1}(x)\}+\frac{7}{4}L\{y_{2}(x)\}\}$$ ??

Let's pick
$$y(x) = \mathcal L^{-1}\{Y(s)\} = \frac{1}{4}\mathcal L^{-1}\left\{\frac 1 {s+1}\right\}+\frac{7}{4}\mathcal L^{-1}\left\{\frac 1 {s+5}\right\}$$
 
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I like Serena said:
Let's pick
$$y(x) = \mathcal L^{-1}\{Y(s)\} = \frac{1}{4}\mathcal L^{-1}\left\{\frac 1 {s+1}\right\}+\frac{7}{4}\mathcal L^{-1}\left\{\frac 1 {s+5}\right\}$$

I understand..Thank you very much! :eek:
 

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