What Causes the Illusion of Planets Moving Backwards in the Sky?

[Philosophaie]

Backward "orbit" of the planets

How do you tell when a planet is going backwards in its "orbit" of the earth?

Do you have to plot a graph and pick out the points?

There must be an easier way!

 

[Drakkith]

The planets were observed over thousands of years through the skies. Over time it was realized that they made odd little "loops" backwards through the sky against the background starfield. This occurred because the Earth is orbiting the Sun at a different rate than the other planets.

Now you can probably look it up online and find out when this will occur. I don't know if they have to calculate the orbits and all that or if it simply occurs on a repeating schedule over time.

 

[Filip Larsen]

The phenomenon is called Apparent Retrograde motion [1].

Conceptually, I think the easiest method would be to do as you propose and simply plot the position of, say, Mars in the sky of Earth as a function of time and note when the motion becomes retrograde.

However, from the orbital elements of Earth and Mars it should be theoretically possible calculate the apparent rate of the geocentric ecliptic longitude of Mars and (numerically) solve for times when this rate is zero. If you want to be very accurate, such calculations will probably be very long winded and be something you'd want a computer to do for you.

If you only want a rough estimate for when the rate is zero, I guess it should be possible to simplify the problem assuming coplanar circular orbits, maybe even so much that an analytic solution is easy. Also, in this simple model the time between when the rate is going positive (prograde motion) or negative (retrograde motion) repeats itself with the synodic period [2]. For instance, for Mars retrograde motion repeats itself after about 2.1 year.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_retrograde_motion
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_period#Relation_between_the_sidereal_and_synodic_periods

 

[Brian H]

It may all go blooey at any time, apparently. Blame Ceres and Vesta:
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-minor-planets-ceres-vesta-earth.html

 

[pmacias]

I would like to clarify that planets do not actually go backwards in their orbit around the Earth. What may appear to be a "backward" motion is actually an illusion caused by differences in orbital speeds and distances between planets. This phenomenon is known as retrograde motion and has been observed and explained by scientists for centuries. It is not necessary to plot a graph or pick out points to determine when a planet is in retrograde motion. Instead, we can use mathematical equations and astronomical observations to accurately track and predict the movements of planets in our solar system. So, while it may seem like planets are going backwards in their orbit, rest assured that this is just an illusion and not a real phenomenon.