What Defines an Ideal Gas and How Does It Differ from Real Gases?

In summary: At low temperatures, the collisions between molecules decrease since they move slower. These assumptions work well for many gases and are used in the ideal gas law and the Van der Waals gas law. In summary, the concept of an ideal gas is based on several assumptions, including that the gas is made up of many molecules that move randomly, the actual volume of the particles is very small compared to the total volume of the system, and there are no forces acting on the particles except when they collide. These assumptions work well for many gases, but may not be accurate at very high pressures or low temperatures. The ideal gas law and the Van der Waals gas law are used to make calculations based on these assumptions.
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what are the differences? my professor said something like an ideal gas has a big temperature, and a big volume. and ithink he says it follows the kinetic molecular theory. but i also know that different gases react at different temps and volumes so big is relative. how do i know what is big for which gas?

also he said its ideal if the gas matches what the ideal gas equation is saying (PV=nRT)
i don't understand what he means by that. i know how to manipulate the equation but i don't know what he means by that. I am pretty sure on thursdays quiz, I am going to have to explain this.

its probably a simple concept, but I am just stressed anyway, i don't want to lose my in this class, by failing the final
 
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An ideal gas is an approximation of the real world to make the maths simpler.
If you look at PV=nRT is says that at T=0 the gas has no volume and no pressure, so where have the atoms gone? Thats because we assume the 'ideal' gas molecules have no size.
We also assume there is no interaction between molecules of the gas - so they don't bounce off each other or attract each other.

At large volumes or low pressures gases become more ideal. The size of the molecules becomes negligble compared to the container.
At very small volumes and very high pressures - imagine a lot of gas compressed into a very tiny space - you can't ignore the size of the molecules and it isn't ideal
 
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mgb_phys said:
An ideal gas is an approximation of the real world to make the maths simpler.
If you look at PV=nRT is says that at T=0 the gas has no volume and no pressure, so where have the atoms gone? Thats because we assume the 'ideal' gas molecules have no size.
We also assume there is no interaction between molecules of the gas - so they don't bounce off each other or attract each other.

At large volumes or low pressures gases become more ideal. The size of the molecules becomes negligble compared to the container.
At very small volumes and very high pressures - imagine a lot of gas compressed into a very tiny space - you can't ignore the size of the molecules and it isn't ideal

im assuming since volume is directly related to moles, and temperature, that ideal gases have high volume, high moles, and high temps, but low pressures?
 
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The ideal gas law is based on seveal assumptions. First, the gas is made up of many, many molecules that move randomly. This is necessary in order for the molecules to collide, exchange energy, and reach equilibrium. The model also assumes that the actual volume of the particles themselves is very small compared to the total volume the system takes up. This is why it says that there is no volume at T=0, since at that temperature the volume would just be that of the atoms (no free space between). Finally, the law assumes no forces are acting on the particles except for when they collide. These assumptions work out pretty well for a lot of gases and the law has been known for centuries and is found by simple kinetic theory using these assumptions. You can also see the Van der Waals gas law which accounts for atomic forces and volume.
 
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sportsstar469 said:
im assuming since volume is directly related to moles, and temperature, that ideal gases have high volume, high moles, and high temps, but low pressures?

Ideal gas laws assume there are no forces between the molecules and only collide with the walls of the container not with each other. At high pressure, as you squeeze more molecules into a space, the number of collisions between molecules increases
 

FAQ: What Defines an Ideal Gas and How Does It Differ from Real Gases?

1. What is an ideal gas?

An ideal gas is a theoretical gas that follows the gas laws perfectly under all conditions. It is made up of a large number of particles that have no volume and do not interact with each other.

2. How is an ideal gas different from a real gas?

An ideal gas is different from a real gas because real gases have volume and interact with each other, which can affect their behavior and deviate from the predictions of the gas laws.

3. Can a real gas behave like an ideal gas?

Under certain conditions, a real gas can behave like an ideal gas. This usually occurs at low pressures and high temperatures, where the volume and interactions between gas particles become negligible.

4. What are the limitations of the ideal gas law?

The ideal gas law does not take into account the volume and interactions between gas particles, which can affect the behavior of real gases. It also assumes that the particles have no volume, which is not true for real gases.

5. What happens if a gas does not behave ideally?

If a gas does not behave ideally, it means that it does not follow the predictions of the gas laws. This could be due to factors such as high pressure, low temperature, or intermolecular forces between gas particles.

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