What happens first: precession or nutation?

In summary, precession is the first rotation because it is a response to an external torque, while nutation is a result of the precession and the conservation of angular momentum.
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A question about the order of Euler angles
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Suppose, for the sake of this question, the following Euler rotations for a gyroscope)

  1. A precession about the vertical 3-axis (like with a top, going around a vertical)
  2. Then, a nutation (a leaning over) about the 1-axis
  3. Then, back to the spin itself of the top body about the local body 3-axis

I am trying to rationalize the order of the rotations in this problem (but, more importantly, in the next one).

I can look at the top-body itself and justify, in my head, that the SPIN is the last one: it is the local body frame.

But how can I know that the precession happens before the nutation?

Perhaps it is best to leave the top alone and go to the issue I face...

Consider the attached schematic of an inertial guidance system.
(notice that this list is NOT ordered)
  • The disk spins about the local 2-axis,
  • The airplane yaws about the vertical 3-axis
  • This causes moments (1-axis) and defelections of the spring sensors

Now, I KNOW that I can jump right to the equation for steady precession, align the axes and compute the result.
Moment = J3-disk * (precession_rate * spin_rate)

I can do that easily, knowing the equation

But I am trying to redevelop the equations from scratch.

I can justify that the last rotation is the spin of the disk (just like the top: it is the body frame)

But I cannot seem to justify which one is first, by looking at the problem: the yaw about 3 or the nutation about 2

The order matters!

I know what the answer SHOULD. This order, first to last:
  1. The yaw about the vertical axis must be the first one.
  2. Then, the one that brings about the nutation of the disk must be the second: about the 1-axis
  3. Then, the spin is last

But I am unable to explain why.

(I mean, to be honest, even with the spinning top, it seems that the first rotation, the precession, does not do much. The nutation, leaning over, does more. So I would have been inclinded --- in my stupidity of learning -- to model the nutation first. In other words, for an axisymmetric gyroscope, what gave the early engineers the idea to model the precession first? I would have done the nutation because I can see that.)
 

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The answer to this question lies in the concept of angular momentum. Precession is a manifestation of the conservation of angular momentum. When a body is subjected to an external torque, it responds by precessing about that axis in order to conserve its angular momentum. In the case of the spinning top, the torque is provided by gravity and the body responds by precessing. The nutation then comes from the fact that the precessing body also experiences a torque due to the centrifugal forces associated with its spin. This torque causes it to lean over and nutate. This provides an explanation for why precession must occur before nutation.
 

FAQ: What happens first: precession or nutation?

What is precession and nutation?

Precession and nutation are two phenomena that occur in the Earth's rotation. Precession is the gradual change in the orientation of the Earth's rotational axis, while nutation is the slight wobbling or nodding of the Earth's rotational axis.

Which happens first: precession or nutation?

Precession happens first, followed by nutation. Precession is a slower and more gradual process, while nutation is a smaller and more rapid movement that occurs on top of precession.

What causes precession and nutation?

Precession is caused by the gravitational pull of the Sun and Moon on the Earth's equatorial bulge. Nutation is caused by the combined gravitational pull of the Sun and Moon, as well as the Earth's own rotation and shape.

How long does it take for precession and nutation to occur?

The precession cycle takes approximately 26,000 years to complete, while nutation occurs on a shorter timescale of 18.6 years.

What are the effects of precession and nutation?

Precession and nutation have significant effects on the Earth's climate and astronomical observations. They can also impact the accuracy of navigational systems and the length of a day on Earth.

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