What happens if you bombard a dead body with protons? (not sure how many)

[sushshaf]

I have been watching videos about the Shroud of Turin. I knew that it was Carbon dated to medieval times. I knew that they were able to produce a 3D image that is not possible with photos.
I also knew that linen turns yellow when exposed to the sun. https://www.allcottonandlinen.com/b...Light Exposure:,the material a yellowish tint.
I recently came to know of the Sudarium of Oviedo and all the other tests done on both pieces.
https://shroud.com/
The Sudarium was C14 dated to about 700 which is when its provenance became known.
The Sudarium and Shroud both have blood on them of AB type. They also have matching blood stains. The stains also prove pre and post mortem blood also serum which only shows up under certain wave lengths.
There are some documents that date prior to 1300 which have images of the burial showing the unusual weave 3*1 Z twist. eg Hungarian Pray Codex.
So working with the position that something really happened, my question became can we increase C14 readings. You can N14 + neutrons gives C14 + protons
https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/isotopes/decay.html#:~:text=The latter slow down, again,in a 14C nucleus.
My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

 

[DaveE]

My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

What do we all win if we guess right? I'm thinking the odds in Vegas are a bit skewed. But I'll play anyway; if you can get it past an IRB, of course.

 

[Baluncore]

My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

Define dead.

 

[Borek]

If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

No. If anything, I would expect it to become even more dead.

 

[Astronuc]

My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

Dead bodies decompose over time.

If anything, a flux of protons (ionizing radiation) would produce further degradation of what material remains.

No. If anything, I would expect it to become even more dead.

More decomposed perhaps.

 

[pinball1970]

Shroud both have blood on them of AB type

In terms of genetics, that would raise interesting questions.

 

[PeroK]

In terms of genetics, that would raise interesting questions.

What blood type does god have?

 

[phinds]

My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

You need to find a forum devoted to mysticism and nonsense. This is a science forum.

 

[Drakkith]

So working with the position that something really happened, my question became can we increase C14 readings. You can N14 + neutrons gives C14 + protons

What does 'increase C14 readings' mean? If you alter the isotope content, then the radiocarbon dating is useless.

 

[mfb]

my question became can we increase C14 readings

What do you mean by that? Increase its C14 concentration? Sure, just add some C14 to it. Or mix it with modern organic material. Besides ruining the sample, what would be the purpose of that?

My final question is If you bombard a dead body with protons, can you restore life?

If you burn a log, does it become a tree?
No.

 

[Vanadium 50]

So working with the position that something really happened

Sure...something happened. The question is whether something happened other than a 14th century relic-seller deciding he needed new inventory.

That seems to be more likely than a pre-industriual particle accelerator used to foil carbon dating centuries later.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Define dead.

Is that like "Mostly dead"?

 

[Astronuc]

Is that like "Mostly dead"?

Reminds me of Michael Palin and John Cleese in Monte Python's dead parrot sketch.

 

[DaveC426913]

Reminds me of Michael Palin and John Cleese in Monte Python's dead parrot sketch.

I think it was more of a Miracle Max reference.

 

[Klystron]

The shroud of Turin remains a beautiful artifact from a painter's hand resembling, perhaps anticipating x-rays, light radiating from a corpse. The body appears strong, masterful, in charge. Dead.

Mary Shelley's (fictional) Frankenstein passed strong electrical currents through dead human body parts reattached via surgery; achieving semblance of life and free will. Doubt if changing from electrons to protons would improve reanimation of dead tissue.

Twentieth-century writer scientist Isaac Asimov gave his humanoid robots positronic brains with immutable rules of conduct embedded within each construct. Novel "I, Robot" discusses reproducing a dead human through robotics.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Frankenstein

"That brain that you put in...was it Hans Delbruck's?"

 

[Drakkith]

I think that's enough for this thread. Thread locked.