What happens to electron spin under Lorentz transformation?

In summary: Thanks for trying to understand!The spinor is an eigenspinor of the operator S . u, where S is a 4 dimensional operator (S0, S) and its magnitude changes by a factor of gamma when you want to relate the probability densities. However, when you want to calculate the total probability that the electron is in a spin state (Sz up or down), you don't get 1. You get gamma*gamma.
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alemsalem
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When you start in the rest frame of the electron, the Spinor w(p = 0) = (1 0 0 0 ) represents a positive energy state with spin up in the Z direction u = (0, 0 0 1),, that is the spinor is an eigenspinor of the operator S . u, where S is a 4 dimensional operator (S0, S)

after a Lorentz transformation (A) to a frame where the electron has momentum p (w(p) = S w(0)).

now w(p) is an eigenstate of the operator S . u1 where u1 = A u and its magnitude |w(p)|^2 has changed by a factor of gamma which is fine if you want to relate the probability density in both frames ( the volume element changed by a corresponding factor),, but if you want to calculate the total probability that the electron is in a spin state (Sz up or down) you don't get 1.

So how do we understand the spin of a moving electron, and how does it transform relativistically? shouldn't we be able to say that the electron is is in some eigenstate of an operator of the form S . v where both of them are three dimensional?

Thanks!
 
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alemsalem said:
When you start in the rest frame of the electron, the Spinor w(p = 0) = (1 0 0 0 ) represents a positive energy state with spin up in the Z direction u = (0, 0 0 1),, that is the spinor is an eigenspinor of the operator S . u, where S is a 4 dimensional operator (S0, S)
No. w represents a positive energy state with spin up in the direction of 4-momentum p =(m,0,0,0). After a Lorentz transformation, Sw represents a positive energy state with spin determined by an appropriate projection to the positive energy subspace in the direction of 4-momentum Lp, where S is the spinor representation and L the vector representation of the Lorentz transformation.
 
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A. Neumaier said:
No. w represents a positive energy state with spin up in the direction of 4-momentum p =(m,0,0,0). After a Lorentz transformation, Sw represents a positive energy state with spin determined by an appropriate projection to the positive energy subspace in the direction of 4-momentum Lp, where S is the spinor representation and L the vector representation of the Lorentz transformation.

I'm having trouble understanding it physically, if there is a magnetic field in the z direction, what's the energy of w1(0) = (1 0 0 0 ) and w2 = (0 1 0 0 ).

Thanks.
 
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the spinor is an eigenspinor of the operator S . u, where S is a 4 dimensional operator (S0, S)

Alemsalem, the four-dimensional analog of the spin vector is not a 4-vector, as you're apparently thinking. Spin is, by definition, the quantity that's conjugate (in the sense of Hamiltonian mechanics) to infinitesimal rotations. Three-dimensional rotations form a 3-vector, and so S is a 3-vector. But four-dimensional rotations (Lorentz tranformations) form an antisymmetric rank 2 tensor (note there are six of them) and so the angular momentum of a system must also be represented by an antisymmetric tensor. For a Dirac particle this is σμν
 
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Bill_K said:
Alemsalem, the four-dimensional analog of the spin vector is not a 4-vector, as you're apparently thinking. Spin is, by definition, the quantity that's conjugate (in the sense of Hamiltonian mechanics) to infinitesimal rotations. Three-dimensional rotations form a 3-vector, and so S is a 3-vector. But four-dimensional rotations (Lorentz tranformations) form an antisymmetric rank 2 tensor (note there are six of them) and so the angular momentum of a system must also be represented by an antisymmetric tensor. For a Dirac particle this is σμν

I think I get that Ji = σjk, but my broblem is with the fact that S is not unitary, and that the spinor magnitude changes by a factor of gamma, which when you want to relate the probability densities it works just fine because it compensates the change in volume,, what then is the total probability for the spinor w(p) to be found in either of the eigenstates of J3 = σ12, is it gamma?.
 

FAQ: What happens to electron spin under Lorentz transformation?

1. What is electron spin?

Electron spin is an intrinsic property of an electron, which is a fundamental particle that makes up atoms. It is a form of angular momentum that describes the rotation of the electron around its own axis.

2. How does Lorentz transformation affect electron spin?

Lorentz transformation is a mathematical framework that describes the effects of special relativity on the properties of particles. It does not directly affect electron spin, but it does impact how spin is observed and measured in different reference frames.

3. Does electron spin change under Lorentz transformation?

No, the spin of an electron remains constant under Lorentz transformation. However, the orientation of the spin may appear different in different reference frames due to the relativistic effects of time dilation and length contraction.

4. Can Lorentz transformation impact the spin of other subatomic particles?

Yes, Lorentz transformation can also affect the spin of other particles, such as protons and neutrons. However, the magnitude of this effect may vary depending on the specific particle and its properties.

5. Is there a relationship between electron spin and Lorentz transformation?

Yes, there is a connection between electron spin and Lorentz transformation, as both are fundamental concepts in the field of quantum mechanics and special relativity. However, Lorentz transformation does not directly impact the spin of an electron.

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