What Happens to Gas Temperature in an Isothermal Expansion?

In summary, the problem involves a thermally isolated chamber being filled with air from atmospheric pressure after being pumped down to a low pressure. The temperature of the air surrounding the chamber is given, and the ratio of specific heats for air is provided. The question is asking for the temperature of the gas in the chamber immediately after the valve is closed. However, the problem is flawed as the rapid free expansion of the air filling the chamber would lead to a decrease in internal energy and thus a decrease in temperature. Therefore, the temperature of the gas in the chamber cannot increase in this scenario.
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maurice2705
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Homework Statement


A thermally isolated chamber is pumped down to a very low pressure. At some point, the chamber is vented slowly so that it is filled with air up to atmospheric pressure, whereupon the valve is closed. The temperature of the air surrounding the chamber is T0=300 K. What is the temperature T of the gas in the chamber immediately after the valve is closed. γ=Cp/CV=7/5 for air. (ANS: 420K)


Homework Equations


Has the air done any work? Does low pressure means vacuum?


The Attempt at a Solution


T0/V0=T/V But what is V0?
 
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  • #2
maurice2705 said:

Homework Statement


A thermally isolated chamber is pumped down to a very low pressure. At some point, the chamber is vented slowly so that it is filled with air up to atmospheric pressure, whereupon the valve is closed. The temperature of the air surrounding the chamber is T0=300 K. What is the temperature T of the gas in the chamber immediately after the valve is closed. γ=Cp/CV=7/5 for air. (ANS: 420K)
I am not clear on the facts. Is the air surrounding the chamber at atmospheric pressure (ie. open to the atmosphere)? If so, there is no change in temperature when it fills up the chamber. I don't see how the temperature of the gas entering the chamber will increase, in any event.

Where did you get this problem?

AM
 
  • #3
Andrew Mason said:
I am not clear on the facts. Is the air surrounding the chamber at atmospheric pressure (ie. open to the atmosphere)? If so, there is no change in temperature when it fills up the chamber. I don't see how the temperature of the gas entering the chamber will increase, in any event.

Where did you get this problem?

AM

yeah it's a werid problem


P1V1gamma = P2V2gamma

if it is reversible and adiabatic, which it should be since you're given gamma?
 
  • #4
Liquidxlax said:
yeah it's a werid problemP1V1gamma = P2V2gamma

if it is reversible and adiabatic, which it should be since you're given gamma?
But it is not reversible. This is a rapid free expansion as the outside air fills the empty chamber. In any event, it is an expansion. So if any work is done by the gas filling the chamber, the internal energy will decrease. I don't see how temperature can possibly increase.

AM
 
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Andrew Mason said:
But it is not reversible. This is a rapid free expansion as the outside air fills the empty chamber. In any event, it is an expansion. So if any work is done by the gas filling the chamber, the internal energy will decrease. I don't see how temperature can possibly increase.

AM

whoops i missed that, so yeah you're right there is no way the temp could increase. It almost sounds like a similar process in which they liquify hellium
 

Related to What Happens to Gas Temperature in an Isothermal Expansion?

1. What is an isothermal process in thermodynamics?

An isothermal process in thermodynamics is a type of thermodynamic process where the temperature of the system remains constant throughout the process. This means that the amount of heat entering the system is equal to the amount of heat leaving the system, resulting in no change in temperature.

2. How is an isothermal process different from an adiabatic process?

An isothermal process involves a constant temperature, while an adiabatic process involves no transfer of heat. In an isothermal process, heat can enter and leave the system, but the temperature remains the same. In an adiabatic process, there is no heat transfer, so the temperature of the system can change.

3. What is the equation for calculating work done in an isothermal process?

The equation for calculating work done in an isothermal process is W = nRT ln(Vf/Vi), where W is the work done, n is the number of moles, R is the gas constant, T is the temperature, Vf is the final volume, and Vi is the initial volume.

4. How does an isothermal process occur in real life?

An isothermal process can occur in real life in several ways. One example is the expansion of a gas in a cylinder with a movable piston, where the gas is heated to maintain a constant temperature as it expands. Another example is the melting or boiling of a substance, where the temperature remains constant until the phase change is complete.

5. What is the significance of isothermal processes in thermodynamics?

Isothermal processes are significant in thermodynamics because they allow for the study of certain thermodynamic properties, such as work and heat, at a constant temperature. They also help to simplify calculations and make them more manageable. Additionally, many real-life processes, such as refrigeration and heat engines, involve isothermal processes.

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