What Happens to Time When Traveling Near the Speed of Light?

[tabchouri]

It terms of physics, that's a primordial difference, what you are describing is a cloning machine that transfers information in the speed of light.
And this is not the same as saying that cloned object traveled at the speed of light.
I'm not discussion the feasability of this machine.
But the issue here was about "MATTER CANNOT travel at the speed of light".

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[Ascending One]

ok, ok... so, it's copying - and there's a primordial difference. I have a question then. How big of a difference is that? Is it significant - and how would you even measure that?

Also, someone said earlier that "you" can travel at the speed of light if you dove into the sun. Is that a correct assumption? If it is, then how would that happen? I assume you would burn to a crisp and then I guess turn into light?

So - following that logic... is there anyway hypothetical way that you could instantly be turned into light without burning or basically, without losing the information that makes up your physical formation? Because in that sense - wouldn't you be able to travel at the speed of light if you were then able to be reconstructed from that information at some other location?

 

[DaveC426913]

ok, ok... so, it's copying - and there's a primordial difference. I have a question then. How big of a difference is that?

It's huge.

The difference between moving something and making a duplicate of something is ... well it's the difference between the pre-digital age and the digital age.

 

[Xori]

It is a huge diffence. You're delving into a philosophical discussion of whether one's consciousness could be reconstructed with the perfect cloning machine. However, the atoms that make up your body would remain here, and therefore you would not be traveling at the speed of light.


I'm pretty sure if you dove into the sun you would still remain in the form of matter, not energy, and would therefore not reach the speed of light.

 

[Ascending One]

What if the matter that made up your body was annihilated by antimatter? I believe that would be a way to instantly turn your matter into light - as gamma rays are emitted when that happens.

 

[DaveC426913]

What if the matter that made up your body was annihilated by antimatter? I believe that would be a way to instantly turn your matter into light - as gamma rays are emitted when that happens.

Sure. All of which would fly apart at c.

 

[tabchouri]

Again, the issue was "MATTER can't travel at the speed of light", not turning matter into energy (by any exotic means suggested in the thread until now) that can travel at the speed of light, then hypoteticall reconstruct the matter or whatever.

This thread is deviating from its purpose.
Moderators, please close the thread.

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[Ascending One]

tabchouri - no disrespect - I don't think there's much purpose behind answering the question as literally as you're interpreting it. I think that in order to purposefully answer a question like that - it requires a bit of imagination. The answer to the question you're describing has a simple and quite definite answer. Who likes or wants that?

 

[Heathera152]

The light going close to the planet would be delayed compared with light that traveled from the same point to the receiver if the planet wasn't there. That's a clumsy sentence but I think about right. Experiments have been done to measure the delays caused by large bodies in the solar system.

But light speed is always measured the same by local observers. It does not make a lot of sense to talk about the speed of light somewhere/somewhen else because we cannot measure said speed.

Hello; Mentz
If I understand you then an observer on Earth say would see a different in when the light arrives depending on whether a planet had bent the light, but the light itself hasn't changes speed, it took a detour a longer path to get to earth.
I don't understand your comment that the speed of light from somewhere/somewhen else because we can't measured the speed of light. My understanding is that the speed of light has been measured pretty accurately using a rotating mirror.

Heather

 

[Mentz114]

Heather,

but the light itself hasn't changed speed, it took a detour a longer path to get to earth.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what GR tells us.

The speed of light can indeed be measured at some location we have access to. But can we be sure that light traveling from one star to another is going at the same speed ? It's a whole different arena. It is a principle of special relativity that if we took our clocks and rulers to another galaxy and used them to measure the speed of light, we'd get the same answer as we got here.

 

[eminent_youtom]

hi everybody!
okyae! from few days m wondering on a question, could anybody help me to understand it..
this is just a pure though experiment

if there was a Photonic camera( or let's say I travel in the speed of light) and is traveling in a speed of light, then how would it see two object on Earth one stationary and another moving car? i mean what is the relative velocity of the car and the man with respect to light...

i understand that no matter in what speed we travel , we see the speed of light be constant.

thankx

 

[DaveC426913]

hi everybody!
okyae! from few days m wondering on a question, could anybody help me to understand it..
this is just a pure though experiment

if there was a Photonic camera( or let's say I travel in the speed of light) and is traveling in a speed of light, then how would it see two object on Earth one stationary and another moving car? i mean what is the relative velocity of the car and the man with respect to light...

i understand that no matter in what speed we travel , we see the speed of light be constant.

thankx

Neither you nor your camera can travel at the speed of light. Even in principle, even in a thought experiment. Period.

Rephrase your question so that they are traveling near the speed of light.

 

[eminent_youtom]

Neither you nor your camera can travel at the speed of light. Even in principle, even in a thought experiment. Period.

Rephrase your question so that they are traveling near the speed of light.

thanks Dave!
OK then how did Einstein do his thought experiment supposing, if I travel on the speed of light, will I be able to see the stationary ray of light ??


anyway.. let's edit my question..
if I travel on .99999999c and view on the surface of earth, where one car is moving with .2c velocity and another car is moving in the (both are moving away from light) .5c velocity ...

what is the speed of CAR1 and CAR 2 RELATIVE TO ME..

" I know that the relative velocity of light w.r.t both car is 'C' ".
thanks