What is dy/dx and how does it relate to derivatives?

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In summary: Fascinating. Therefore, what would one consider deriving a function?In the context of this thread (differentiation and the derivative), "deriving a function" has no meaning. Differentiating a function means taking its derivative.
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the meaning of "dy/dx

Homework Statement


I am unsure of what dy/dx means when used in derivatives. However, I do know that it is called the derivative operator and have been told its the derivative of y relative to x, but could someone elaborate this for me?


Homework Equations


an example equation might be dy/dx = x2 + 4x + 4


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I have been told that its called the derivative operator and that it is the derivative of y relative to x.
 
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I wasn't too sure if this would be considered a homework question. If someone could let me know so I can start posting in the correct section, that would be helpful. :smile:
 
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vanmaiden said:

Homework Statement


I am unsure of what dy/dx means when used in derivatives. However, I do know that it is called the derivative operator and have been told its the derivative of y relative to x, but could someone elaborate this for me?


Homework Equations


an example equation might be dy/dx = x2 + 4x + 4


The Attempt at a Solution


I have been told that its called the derivative operator and that it is the derivative of y relative to x.

dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x, where y is assumed to be a differentiable function of x.

dy/dx is not an operator - it is a function. d/dx is an operator that is applied to a differentiable function. A function takes a number as its input, and produces a number as its output. In contrast, an operator takes a function as its input, and produces a function as its output.
 
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Mark44 said:
dy/dx is the derivative of y with respect to x, where y is assumed to be a differentiable function of x.

dy/dx is not an operator - it is a function. d/dx is an operator that is applied to a differentiable function. A function takes a number as its input, and produces a number as its output. In contrast, an operator takes a function as its input, and produces a function as its output.

To get my terminology straight, would a differential function be a derivative? please elaborate. Thank you.
 
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vanmaiden said:
To get my terminology straight, would a differential function be a derivative? please elaborate. Thank you.
Do you mean "differentiable" function? If so, that's a function that can be differentiated; i.e., one that has a derivative. A differential is something different.
 
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Mark44 said:
Do you mean "differentiable" function? If so, that's a function that can be differentiated; i.e., one that has a derivative. A differential is something different.

Yes, exactly what I meant. Thank you
 
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There's something of a disconnect in the terminology that is used in English. To get the derivative of a function, we differentiate it (we don't derive it). If the function has a derivative, it is differentiable (not derivable). Go figure.
 
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That's because the concept of a differentiable function for functions with more than variable is more stringent than the simple existence of the partial derivatives.
 
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Mark44 said:
There's something of a disconnect in the terminology that is used in English. To get the derivative of a function, we differentiate it (we don't derive it). If the function has a derivative, it is differentiable (not derivable). Go figure.

Fascinating. Therefore, what would one consider deriving a function?
 
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In the context of this thread (differentiation and the derivative), "deriving a function" has no meaning.

In a different context, one can start from observations and derive a general formula, but this is unrelated to differentiation.
 
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Though my question was off-topic, thank you for answering it anyway.
 
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FAQ: What is dy/dx and how does it relate to derivatives?

What is the meaning of "dy/dx"?

Dy/dx is a notation used in calculus to represent the derivative of a function with respect to the independent variable. It represents the instantaneous rate of change of the dependent variable with respect to the independent variable.

How is dy/dx calculated?

Dy/dx can be calculated by taking the limit as the change in x approaches 0 of the change in y over the change in x. This is also known as the derivative of the function.

What is the physical interpretation of dy/dx?

The physical interpretation of dy/dx is the slope of the tangent line to the curve at a specific point. It represents the rate at which the dependent variable is changing with respect to the independent variable at that point.

Is dy/dx the same as the slope of a line?

No, dy/dx is the slope of the tangent line to a curve at a specific point, while the slope of a line is the ratio of the change in y over the change in x for any two points on the line. However, when the function is a straight line, dy/dx will be equal to the slope of that line.

How is dy/dx used in real-world applications?

Dy/dx is used in various real-world applications, such as physics, engineering, and economics. It can be used to model the rate of change of quantities, such as velocity, acceleration, and growth rate, and make predictions about their behavior. It is also used in optimization problems to find the maximum or minimum value of a function.

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