What is the 1st Order Expansion Problem for a Function with a Logarithm?

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In summary, the conversation involves discussing a problem with finding the first-order expansion of a function involving trigonometric and logarithmic terms. The steps involve finding the limit at theta=0 and using Taylor expansion to simplify the function. The participants also mention using L'Hospital's rule and substitution to find the limit. Eventually, the conversation results in finding the correct answer and gaining a better understanding of the topic.
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I'm a bit frustrated at the moment, as this minor problem should be fairly easy. But I seem to go wrong at some point...

So I've got to do a 1st order expansion of the function
\begin{equation}
f=\frac{\cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)}\ln(\frac{L\sin(\theta)}{d\cos( \theta)}+1)
\end{equation}

and my steps are:

\begin{equation}

f(0)=0 \\
f^{\prime}(\theta)=-\frac{1}{\sin^2(\theta)}\ln(\frac{L\sin(\theta)}{d\cos(\theta)}+1)+ \frac{\cos(\theta)}{\sin(\theta)}\frac{d\cos(\theta)}{L\sin(\theta)+d \cos(\theta)}(\frac{\cos^2(\theta)+\sin^2(\theta)}{\cos^2(\theta)}\frac{L}{d}).
\end{equation}

When I insert theta=0 I end up divding by 0...
Furthermore, when I make my computer do the expansion, I get the correct result from the assignment I'm working on.

If anyone could help me out, I'd be grateful!
 
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f(0) is not defined, you need the limits at theta=0. Better expand the logarithm. You know that ln(1+x) ≈ x-x/2 if |x|<<1.

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Or, if you let ##x = \tan\theta## and ##k=\frac L d## you have ##\frac{\ln(1+kx)}{x}##. You can find the limit as ##x\to 0## using L'Hospital's rule.
 
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If you're not sure about the substitution, you would have:

[tex]\lim_{\theta\to 0}f(\theta )=\lim_{\theta\to 0}\frac{\log\left(1+\frac{L}{d}\tan\theta\right)}{\tan\theta} = \lim_{\theta\to 0}\frac{\frac{d}{d\theta}\log\left(1+\frac{L}{d}\tan\theta\right)}{ \frac{d}{d\theta} \tan\theta}= \cdots[/tex]
 
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The function can be written in simpler form as benorin has shown:

[tex]f(\theta )=\frac{\log\left(1+\frac{L}{d}\tan\theta\right)}{\tan\theta} [/tex]

Use the Taylor expansion of log(1+x) = x - x2/2. Let be x=tan(theta).

[tex]f(\theta )≈\frac{\frac{L}{d}\tan\theta-\left(\frac{L}{d}\tan\theta\right)^2/2}{\tan\theta} [/tex]

Simplify by tan(θ): You get an expression linear in tan(θ). You can expand tan(θ) with respect to θ...

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Thanks for all of your answers, it really helped me out. I've reread the series chapter of my calculus book, and I've come to a much better understanding of that subject in general.

I basically expand the logarithm in the function, and then I expand the function, which gave the correct answer.
 

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