What is the capacitance between two points on three concentric shells?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving finding the capacitance between two points x and y, using three concentric shells of different radii. One solution approach is to treat it as two capacitors in series. The person also requests for a more basic approach using the definition of capacitance. The conversation ends with a reminder to post in the Schoolwork forums and show effort before seeking help.
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A friend of mine sent me this problem about finding the capacitance.
We have three concentric shells of radius a, b, c. And we've to find the capacitance between x and y.

I need help.

Thank you
 
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Among many ways, you could treat it as two capacitors (a,b ---b,c) in series. What is the capacitance of two concentric shells?
 
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hutchphd said:
Among many ways, you could treat it as two capacitors (a,b ---b,c) in series. What is the capacitance of two concentric shells?
I would love to get a hint to do it any other way. Something that is more basic, like by using just the starting definition of C=Q/ V.
Thank you for your reply :)
 
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A friend of mine sent me this problem about finding the capacitance.
We have three concentric shells of radius a, b, c. And we've to find the capacitance between x and y.

I need help.

Thank you
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FAQ: What is the capacitance between two points on three concentric shells?

What is the general formula for capacitance between two points on three concentric shells?

The general formula for capacitance between two points on three concentric shells is derived using the concept of series and parallel combinations of capacitors. If the shells have radii \( R_1 \), \( R_2 \), and \( R_3 \) with \( R_1 < R_2 < R_3 \), the capacitance between the innermost and outermost shells can be calculated by first finding the capacitance between each pair of shells and then combining them appropriately.

How do you calculate the capacitance between the innermost and middle shell?

The capacitance between the innermost shell (radius \( R_1 \)) and the middle shell (radius \( R_2 \)) is given by the formula:\[ C_{1,2} = \frac{4 \pi \epsilon_0 R_1 R_2}{R_2 - R_1} \]where \( \epsilon_0 \) is the permittivity of free space.

How do you calculate the capacitance between the middle and outermost shell?

The capacitance between the middle shell (radius \( R_2 \)) and the outermost shell (radius \( R_3 \)) is given by the formula:\[ C_{2,3} = \frac{4 \pi \epsilon_0 R_2 R_3}{R_3 - R_2} \]where \( \epsilon_0 \) is the permittivity of free space.

How do you combine the capacitances to find the total capacitance between the innermost and outermost shells?

The total capacitance between the innermost and outermost shells, considering that the capacitances \( C_{1,2} \) and \( C_{2,3} \) are in series, is given by:\[ \frac{1}{C_{total}} = \frac{1}{C_{1,2}} + \frac{1}{C_{2,3}} \]Thus,\[ C_{total} = \left( \frac{1}{C_{1,2}} + \frac{1}{C_{2,3}} \right)^{-1} \]

What assumptions are made in these calculations?

Several assumptions are made in these calculations:1. The shells are perfect conductors.2. The space between the shells is filled with a vacuum or a uniform dielectric material.3. The shells are perfectly concentric.4. Edge effects are neglected, assuming that the shells are large enough for the edge effects to be insignificant.

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