What is the Connection Between Black Holes and the Big Bang?

In summary, the connection between black holes and the Big Bang lies in their roles in the universe's evolution. The Big Bang represents the origin of the universe, resulting in an incredibly hot and dense state that expanded over time. Black holes, on the other hand, are formed from the remnants of massive stars that collapse under their own gravity, concentrating mass in a singularity. Both phenomena involve extreme gravitational forces and play critical roles in cosmic structure formation, suggesting that understanding black holes may provide insights into the early universe and the conditions present at the time of the Big Bang.
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Black holes, white holes, big bang.
I think Im onto something. I am sure I am not tho. Please prove me wrong.
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Hi, I want to ask this community about some black hole shinanigans. I've spent some time searching for this topic here because I don't want to be the guy who spams a forum with a question already answered a hundred times over. Since none of the threads I found answered my question exactly, I want to try asking directly. Still, my fascination for space and physics is purely a hobby. I do not study or work in this field so if this is a common topic, I am sorry.
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Here is my thought process.
Say a particle A falls into a black hole. As it approaches the singularity (S for short), time dilation increases exponentially. It's time "slows" for the rest of us.
Particle B falls in after it. Its time dilates as well but as it is further from the S than particle A at each instance, it is moving toward S faster than A.

So, from A's perspective, all the matter that fell after it starts catching up. It can never take over, but as A gets infinitely close to S, B (and everything that fell after) catches up infinitely close to A (and everything that fell before).

Therefore, it seems to me you can say that ALL matter that entered a black hole reaches the singularity at the same time...

Now, I am still trying to warp my mind around it, especially the part where the black hole is formed (does the imploded star actually form the singularity or is singularity an infinitely tiny pocket of emptiness surrounded by particles of enormous mass infinitely-slowly getting ever so closer?)

BUT it seems to me that if this is true, a black hole is essentially a time capsule for all the matter that fell in waiting till the end of time when all that trapped matter reaches the singularity at a single point in time. And that sounds a lot like the single-point-single-instance origin of the big bang.
Which is why I think a white hole isn't some end of a tunnel slowly shooting out particles from the black hole one at a time. It is an infinitely fast and powerful explosion releasing the core of and ancient black hole. Perhaps from a previous universe.

Thank you for reading. If you see the error of my logic, please point it out so I can take my science theories back to sci-fi :D
 
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jurap said:
BUT it seems to me that if this is true….
It’s not.
You’ve picked up several popular misunderstandings here, but actually
- the Big Bang happened everywhere, not happen at a point
- despite the external appearance of slowing time, things falling into a black hole reach the event horizon very quickly
- the singularity at the “center” of a black hole is a point in time, not a place in space

We have many threads discussing this stuff, and you may want to go through them (and @PeterDonis’s Insights articles on the Schwarzschild geometry).

As it is based on misunderstandings this thread is closed.
 
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jurap said:
Therefore, it seems to me you can say that ALL matter that entered a black hole reaches the singularity at the same time...
Well, your reasoning was wrong, because everything you described about the singularity was actually a statement about the event horizon in the Schwarzschild coordinates. But the conclusion is correct for the simple reason that the singularity is a moment in time, or a moment when time ends.

jurap said:
And that sounds a lot like the single-point-single-instance origin of the big bang.
One major difference is that a white hole is a vacuum solution and the Big Bang is not a vacuum solution. Another major difference is that a white hole is isotropic but not homogenous while the Big Bang is both isotropic and homogenous.
 
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FAQ: What is the Connection Between Black Holes and the Big Bang?

What is the Connection Between Black Holes and the Big Bang?

The connection between black holes and the Big Bang lies in their extreme gravitational effects and the role of singularities. Both phenomena involve regions of space where conventional physics breaks down: black holes have singularities at their centers, and the Big Bang originated from a singularity. This suggests that understanding one can provide insights into the other.

Are Black Holes Remnants of the Big Bang?

No, black holes are not remnants of the Big Bang. Black holes form from the gravitational collapse of massive stars after they exhaust their nuclear fuel. However, the Big Bang did create the conditions necessary for the formation of stars, galaxies, and eventually black holes.

Did Black Holes Contribute to the Big Bang?

Black holes did not contribute to the Big Bang. The Big Bang is the event that marks the beginning of the universe, occurring approximately 13.8 billion years ago. Black holes formed much later in the universe's history, as a result of the gravitational collapse of massive stars.

Can Black Holes Help Us Understand the Early Universe?

Yes, studying black holes can help us understand the early universe. The extreme conditions around black holes, such as high gravity and energy densities, can provide insights into the physics of the early universe, which also experienced extreme conditions. Observations of black holes can help refine our models of the universe's evolution.

Is There a Theoretical Link Between Black Holes and the Big Bang?

There is a theoretical link between black holes and the Big Bang through the concept of singularities. Both involve points where density becomes infinite and the laws of physics as we know them cease to function. Some theories, such as those involving quantum gravity, aim to unify our understanding of black holes and the Big Bang under a single framework.

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