What is the derivative of ln(x^2 + y^2)?

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To find the derivative of y = ln(x^2 + y^2), implicit differentiation is necessary since y is a function of x. The initial attempt at the solution yields y' = (2x + 2y)/(x^2 + y^2), but the correct answer involves differentiating y as well, leading to the equation dy/dx = (1/(x^2 + y^2))(2x + 2y(dy/dx)). This results in a more complex expression where dy/dx appears on both sides, requiring further manipulation to isolate it. The final answer is derived as 2x/(x^2 + y^2 - 2y). Understanding implicit differentiation is crucial for solving such equations correctly.
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Homework Statement


Find y'

y=ln(x^2 + y^2)

Homework Equations


d/dx ln(u)= 1/u du/dx

The Attempt at a Solution



y' = [1/(x^2 + y^2)] (2x + 2y)
y' = (2x+2y)/(x^2 + y^2)

But my book says the answer is 2x/(x^2 + y^2 - 2y)

How can that be?
 
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You need to be differentiating the y on the right hand side of the equation when you take the derivative of the entire equation.
 
Are you saying my first step should be:
dy/dx = (1/x^2 + y^2) [2x+2y(dy/dx)]
 
yes

this problem must be solved by implicit differentiation
 
I don't understand what the 2nd step would be though. So I have dy/dx on both sides, but isn't dy/dx what I want to solve for? Wouldn't they cancel each other out?
 
No, they won't cancel because one is multiplied by [2y/(x^2+ y^2)]
(Please, don't write 1/x^2+ y^2! That's a completely different value).

Solve your equation for dy/dx.
 
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