What is the Derivative of x / (2 - tan x)?

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The discussion focuses on finding the derivative of the function x / (2 - tan x). Users express confusion over the derivative provided by Wolfram Alpha, which is (2 + x sec^2(x) - tan(x)) / (2 - tan(x))^2, compared to their own result of (x sec^2 x) / (2 - tan x). Participants clarify that the negative sign in the denominator is due to the original function's structure, and they discuss the implications of simplifying the expression incorrectly. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful algebraic manipulation and understanding the roles of terms in the numerator and denominator. Ultimately, the complexity of the derivative leads to a consensus that the Wolfram Alpha result is indeed correct despite initial confusion.
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Homework Statement


I need to find the derivative of x / (2 - tan x).


Homework Equations


I do everything Wolfram Alpha does here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+x+/+(2+-+tan+x)
Except I don't understand why the answer is (2+x sec^2(x)-tan(x))/(-2+tan(x))^2.

I get (x sec^2 x) / (2 - tan x).


The Attempt at a Solution


The solution above. Again just what Wolfram Alpha does, but I simplify:

(2+x sec^2(x)-tan(x))/(tan(x) - 2)^2

to

(x sec^2 x) / (2 - tan x).
 
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You can't pull a 2-tan(x) out of the top of that equation, there is a 2-tan(x) on the top as well as the bottom but on the top it's being added to the xsec^2(x) not multiplied so you can't simplify.
 
Vorde said:
You can't pull a 2-tan(x) out of the top of that equation, there is a 2-tan(x) on the top as well as the bottom but on the top it's being added to the xsec^2(x) not multiplied so you can't simplify.

Why is the tan x positive and the 2 negative in the denominator?

[Edit] Also can't I pull 2-tan(x) out of 1(2-tan(x)) and then just leave a 1 + x sec^2(x) up there in the numerator? [Edit]
 
I don't know why wolfram alpha changes the denominator, it has to be convention within wolfram alpha because there is no need for it. As for the numerator, it has to do with keeping track of parentheses with regards to negative signs, if you work it out it will make sense.

As for the second comment. No, because that would require dividing 2-tan(x) out of xsec^2(x) as well, which would only make it more confusing.
 
communitycoll said:

Homework Statement


I need to find the derivative of x / (2 - tan x).

Homework Equations


I do everything Wolfram Alpha does here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=derivative+x+/+(2+-+tan+x)
Except I don't understand why the answer is (2+x sec^2(x)-tan(x))/(-2+tan(x))^2.

I get (x sec^2 x) / (2 - tan x).

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution above. Again just what Wolfram Alpha does, but I simplify:

(2+x sec^2(x)-tan(x))/(tan(x) - 2)^2

to

(x sec^2 x) / (2 - tan x).
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\displaystyle \frac{2+x \sec^2(x)-\tan(x)}{(\tan(x) - 2)^2}
\displaystyle =\frac{2+x \sec^2(x)-\tan(x)}{(2-\tan(x))^2}

\displaystyle =\frac{2-\tan(x)+x \sec^2(x)}{(2-\tan(x))^2}

\displaystyle =\frac{2-\tan(x)}{(2-\tan(x))^2}+<br /> \frac{+x \sec^2(x)}{(2-\tan(x))^2}

\displaystyle =\frac{1}{2-\tan(x)}+\frac{x \sec^2(x)}{(2-\tan(x))^2}​
This is not simpler than what we started with.
 
Okay then thanks. I appreciate it.
 
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