What Is the Entropy of a Classical Oscillator System in Thermal Equilibrium?

In summary, the conversation discusses a system of three balls in a reservoir connected by springs with a negligible weight. The system is in a balanced state with the balls forming an equilateral triangle. The questions ask about the entropy and normal mode vibration frequency of the system. The attempt at a solution involves using the Lagrangian to solve for the normal mode frequency, but the system is not isolated. A suggestion is made to perturb the Hamiltonian and use it to calculate the entropy, and to consider the degrees of freedom of the system.
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Tianwu Zang
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Homework Statement


In a reservoir there are three balls. There is a spring(the weight of spring is negligible) with elastic coefficient k between each two balls(small enough, like two particles). Suppose the center of gravity of the system does not move, and the mass of each ball is m. Suppose the temperature is T. The balance state is that the three balls are on the three vertices of an equilateral triangle with a side length L.
2. Questions
What is the entropy of this system?(This system is classical, non quantum) Consider this system as an ensemble.
And what is the normal mode vibration frequency of this system?

The Attempt at a Solution


If it is an isolated problem, I can solve it. The Lagrangian is 1/2*m([tex]\dot{x1}[/tex]2+[tex]\dot{y1}[/tex]2+[tex]\dot{x2}[/tex]2+[tex]\dot{y2}[/tex]2+[tex]\dot{x3}[/tex]2+[tex]\dot{y3}[/tex]2)-1/2*k((x1-x2)2+(x1-x3)2+(x2-x3)2+(y1-y2)2+(y2-y3)2+(y1-y3)2), so the normal mode frequency can be solved by Lagrangian equation. But in this problem the system is no longer isolated. I am confused...
Thank you!
 

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you could slightly pertrube the hamiltonian by infinitesimally moving the charges around the equilibrium point to get [tex] \delta H [/tex]; this may lead you to entropy since from the problem there seems to be no work done on the system.

So my guess is [tex] dS = \frac{ \delta H}{T} [/tex]

and i'd find more common degrees of freedom
 

Related to What Is the Entropy of a Classical Oscillator System in Thermal Equilibrium?

What is entropy?

Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness in a system. It is a thermodynamic property that describes the amount of energy that is unavailable for work in a system.

What is an oscillator?

An oscillator is a physical system that exhibits repetitive and predictable motion. This can include objects such as pendulums, springs, or electronic circuits.

How is entropy related to an oscillator?

In an oscillator, entropy is related to the amount of energy that is lost due to friction or other dissipative forces. As the oscillator loses energy, its randomness and disorder increase, leading to an increase in entropy.

How does entropy affect an oscillator's behavior?

The increase of entropy in an oscillator leads to a decrease in the amplitude of its motion over time, as more and more energy is lost. Eventually, the oscillator will come to a state of equilibrium where its motion ceases and the entropy is at a maximum.

Can entropy be reduced in an oscillator?

Yes, entropy can be reduced in an oscillator by reducing the amount of energy lost due to friction or other dissipative forces. This can be achieved through careful design and engineering of the system, such as using lubricants or minimizing contact with external surfaces.

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