What is the Flaw in the 'Proof' That -1 Equals 1?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a supposed "proof" that -1 equals 1 by taking the square root of both sides. However, it is pointed out that this is not a valid step and the mistake lies in not considering the two possible square roots of a complex number. The conversation also mentions a similar mistake being made in a page promoting "Time Cube" theory.
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Hi all. I found this "proof" and was just wondering if there is an error in it or not, because I couldn't find it. Any ideas?

-1/1=1/-1
sqrt(-1/1)=sqrt(1/-1)
sqrt(-1)/sqrt(1)=sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)
i/1=1/i
i*i/1=i*1/i
i^2/1=i/i
-1=1 ?
 
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sqrt(-1/1)=sqrt(1/-1)
sqrt(-1)/sqrt(1)=sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)

The transition between these two steps is invalid. There is no reason you would be allowed to do this.

There is a basic property of the square root function that sqrt(a)*sqrt(b)=sqrt(a*b) where a and b are positive, but -1/1 isn't positive so we don't get to use that here.

I've actually seen this one before a page promoting "Time Cube" theory!
 
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The problem comes from writing simple "sqrt" functions rather than "+/-sqrt". IOW, whenever you take the square root, you have to take into consideration that there are two square roots of any complex number, which differ by a factor of -1. Deciding which roots to take to maintain an equality often requires working through exactly the kind of computation you have shown.

I would have looked at the second line in your "proof" and decide which sign each sqrt should have. To do that I would go through pretty much the proof you have, and when I got "-1=1", I would say, "Oh - that's not it - I guess the two sqrts have to have opposite signs to maintain the equality."

I know that looks circular, but it's really how you decide which root to take. It might be clearer with pure real numbers:

(-2)^2 = (2)^2
sqrt((-2)^2) = sqrt((2)^2)
-2 = 2

oops ... should have had a minus sign in line 2!
 
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Just to add this wasn't my proof and I knew it wasn't true. I just couldn't find the mistake. Thanks guys.
 

FAQ: What is the Flaw in the 'Proof' That -1 Equals 1?

What is the proof that -1 equals 1?

The proof that -1 equals 1 is based on the fundamental property of multiplication in mathematics, which states that the product of a positive number and a negative number is always a negative number. Using this property, we can show that (-1)(-1) equals 1, therefore proving that -1 is equivalent to 1.

Can you provide a visual representation of the proof?

Yes, the proof can be represented visually using a number line. Placing -1 and 1 on the number line, we can see that they are equidistant from 0 and are mirror images of each other. This demonstrates the equality between -1 and 1.

How does the proof of -1 = 1 impact other mathematical concepts?

The proof of -1 = 1 has implications in many areas of mathematics, including algebra, calculus, and complex numbers. It is also used in solving equations and in the development of mathematical theories.

Is the proof of -1 = 1 accepted by all mathematicians?

Yes, the proof of -1 = 1 is widely accepted by the mathematical community. It is a well-established concept that has been rigorously tested and proven by numerous mathematicians.

Can you explain why the proof of -1 = 1 may seem counterintuitive?

The proof of -1 = 1 may seem counterintuitive because it goes against our everyday understanding of numbers. We are used to thinking of negative and positive numbers as opposites, but this proof shows that they can also be equal in certain situations. It challenges our assumptions and requires us to think critically about mathematical concepts.

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