What is the key step to solving this cylinder friction problem?

In summary, the conversation is about a homework problem involving a cylinder and determining the magnitude of force P that will cause the cylinder to rotate. The problem also involves finding the angle P makes with a new horizontal axis. The conversation includes discussion of resolving forces, drawing a free body diagram, and using geometry to solve the problem. There is also a request for help with setting up the equations and finding the solution.
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I understand everything about the problem except how to determine the angle P makes with the new horizontal axis (parallel with F)--see diagram under primary one... so that I can sum the forces up and answer the problem. My geometry is somewhat rusty and I'm not exactly sure what geometric property makes the angle 45. Any help is appreciated.
 

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Your solution looks correct to me. You summed the moments at B to get P=812 nt. You resolved the Ff and N into components in the x and y direction (all the angles look to be 45 degrees). You summed the forces in the in the x and y direction =0 and solved for mu.
 
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HELP me on this problem please it involves a cylinder and i can't figure out the correct solution.
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Here is the question:

Determine magnitude of force P that will cause the cylinder rotates.

Weight of Cylinder = 400N
Radius of Cylinder = 150mm
Coefficient of friction in all surfaces is = 0.2
 

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I would draw a free body diagram of the cylinder. There will be normal and frictional forces on the A and B surfaces. Resolve P into X & Y directions. One of the things you will need to convince yourself of, by geometry, is if a line segment drawn from the origin (where A & B meet) through the center of the circle and connecting to P is a 90 degree angle. If it does you can take the moment about the origin and get rid of some of the ugliness relating to the frictional forces. Summing forces in the X & Y directions plus the moment equation should give you enough equations to solve the problem.
 
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RTW69 said:
I would draw a free body diagram of the cylinder. There will be normal and frictional forces on the A and B surfaces. Resolve P into X & Y directions. One of the things you will need to convince yourself of, by geometry, is if a line segment drawn from the origin (where A & B meet) through the center of the circle and connecting to P is a 90 degree angle. If it does you can take the moment about the origin and get rid of some of the ugliness relating to the frictional forces. Summing forces in the X & Y directions plus the moment equation should give you enough equations to solve the problem.

can you please help me setup the equation or can u illustrate the proper solution for this problem i really don't know how to start with please help i need solution thanks,
 
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Have you done a free body diagram of the cylinder, that is the first step? Choose a coordinate system such as the directions of sides A and B. Resolve the P force in the direction of the coordinate system you have chosen. P is the hypotenuse of a 3-4-5 triangle so you know all the angles associated with P. Sum the forces in the x, y direction and take the moment about the origin. You will end up with 3 three equations and 3 unknowns one of which is P. You can use your knowledge of linear equations to solve for the three unknowns.
 

FAQ: What is the key step to solving this cylinder friction problem?

What is the definition of friction?

Friction is a force that opposes motion between two surfaces in contact with each other.

How does friction affect a cylinder?

Friction can slow down the motion of a cylinder, as it creates resistance against the cylinder's movement. It also generates heat, which can cause wear and tear on the cylinder's surface.

What factors affect the amount of friction on a cylinder?

The amount of friction on a cylinder can be affected by the weight or force applied to the cylinder, the type of surface it is in contact with, and the relative speed of the cylinder's movement.

How can friction on a cylinder be reduced?

Friction on a cylinder can be reduced by using lubricants, such as oils or greases, between the cylinder and the surface it is in contact with. Lowering the weight or force applied to the cylinder can also reduce friction.

What are some real-life applications of friction involving cylinders?

Friction involving cylinders is important in various industries, such as manufacturing, transportation, and construction. It is used in brakes to slow down vehicles, in engines to convert motion into energy, and in conveyor belts to move objects. It is also used in everyday objects, such as pencils and pens, to provide grip for writing.

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