What is the period of a pendulum bouncing off an inclined wall?

In summary, in this conversation, the question is asked about the period of a pendulum hanging from an inclined wall. It is released at an initial angle of 10 degrees and bounces off the wall elastically at an angle of -5 degrees. The equations used to solve for the period are T=2π√(l/g) and w*T=4pi/3. The final answer is T=4pi/3 * sqrt(L/g).
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Homework Statement



A pendulum hangs from an inclined wall. Suppose that this pendulum is released at an initial angle of 10 degrees and it bounces off the wall elastically when it reaches an angle of -5 degrees. What is the period of this pendulum?
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Homework Equations



T=2π√(l/g)

The Attempt at a Solution


A=10
θ=Acos(wt)
a=-A(w^2)cos(wt)
a=-(g/L)(-5)=-A(g/L)cos(wt)
(-5)=Acos(wt)
arccos((-5)/A)=wt
time to reach the wall t=(arccos((-5)/A))(L/g)=(1/3)π√L/g)
and then, I don't understand how it moves back up.
 
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Just thinking about it, the amount of time the pendulum spends traveling to the wall will be identical to the time it takes to travel back. The situation makes it so that the total distance traveled is 3/4 of what it would be if the wall were not there. The wall only affects the pendulum by cutting out 1/4 of the time it needs to travel to complete one period. Therefore I would suggest that the answer should be 3/4 of the period that the pendulum would have if the wall were not there.
Another way to think about it is (actually really the same) that you can just calculate the amount of time it takes to travel to the wall (which is 3/8 of the pendulum's normal period) and then multiply this by two, because the path back to the start point will take the same amount of time. then you get 6/8 (or 3/4) of the pendulum's normal period.
 
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I'd say AlexChandler's solution is flawed. He is assuming that the bob will take 1/4 of a period to travel 1/4 of a round trip which is how most people would tend to think off guard. The motion is not uniform but is well known to be non-elementary. Fortunately, the small angle approximation applies here and a SHM ensues. We can use the analogy of SHM witha uniform circular one and see that the bob bounces off when its phase is such that the angular "position" is negative half of the amplitude. This happens at a phase of 2pi/3. It jumps off immediately to 4pi/3 (because of the elasticity of the collision with the wall) with the same angular frequency and finishes a round trip going through a total phase of 4pi/3...
w*T=4pi/3 and the period is therefore 4pi/(3w) T=4pi/3 * sqrt(L/g)
 

FAQ: What is the period of a pendulum bouncing off an inclined wall?

What is a pendulum?

A pendulum is a weight suspended from a fixed point that is able to swing back and forth due to the force of gravity.

What is an inclined wall?

An inclined wall is a sloped surface, typically a wall, that is at an angle to the ground or horizontal surface.

How does a pendulum behave when attached to an inclined wall?

The behavior of a pendulum attached to an inclined wall is affected by the angle of the wall and the length of the pendulum. The pendulum will swing back and forth in a pattern determined by these factors.

What is the relationship between the angle of the inclined wall and the period of the pendulum's swing?

The period of a pendulum attached to an inclined wall is affected by the angle of the wall. As the angle increases, the period of the pendulum's swing will also increase.

Can a pendulum attached to an inclined wall exhibit simple harmonic motion?

Yes, a pendulum attached to an inclined wall can exhibit simple harmonic motion if the angle of the wall is small enough. As the angle increases, the motion may become more complex and deviate from simple harmonic motion.

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