What Is the pH of a Solution with Double Dissociation of Ascorbic Acid?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a disassociation problem involving ascorbic acid. The goal is to find the pH of a solution containing the second disassociated form. The conversation includes equations and calculations to determine the concentration of the acid and its conjugate anion. However, there is confusion about the setup of the second part of the problem and the teacher's explanation of not squaring the products. The person is also reminded that the initial concentration of the conjugate anion is 0 and the initial concentration of the acid for the second Ka should be the same as the hydronium concentration.
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Hello again,

Yes, it's me with another disassociation problem.

If you have .0213M of ascorbic acid, what is the pH of a solution containing the second disassociated form?

Ok,

HC6H7O6 <--> H + C6H7O6

8.0e-5 = x^2 / (.0213 - x)
x = 1.265e-3M

C6H7O6 <---> H + C6H6O6
.02M - x (1.265-3 + x) (1.265-3 + x)

so,

1.6e-12 = (1.265e-3+x)^2/(.02-x)

Now I apparently set up the second part wrong as I am getting imaginary molarities and pHs. My chemistry teacher said I was not supose to square the rpoducts like that.

I do not understand why
 
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C6H7O6 <---> H + C6H6O6
.02M - x (1.265-3 + x) (1.265-3 + x)

The initial concentration of the conjugate anion is 0. Also the initial concentration of the acid for the second Ka should be the same as the hydronium concentration.
 
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you are squaring the products in the second part of your equation. The dissociation of ascorbic acid is a simple equilibrium reaction where the acid (HC6H7O6) dissociates into a proton (H+) and the conjugate base (C6H6O6). The equilibrium constant (Ka) for this reaction can be expressed as [H+][C6H6O6]/[HC6H7O6]. Therefore, to find the concentration of H+ in the solution, you can use the Ka value and the initial concentration of the acid (HC6H7O6). The pH can then be calculated using the H+ concentration. I hope this helps clarify the problem for you.
 

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