What Is the Potential at an Infinite Uniformly Charged Line?

In summary: Ok, so then if I wanted to find the capacitance between a line charge and a cylindrical conducting shell around it, since I would have to define a potential difference, could I simply say the potential on the line is zero and the potential at the shell is the negative integral of the electric field due to the line charge at the shell, using a reference point where the potential is zero. And then use that for the capacitance. Or would the potential difference be infinite, and then the capacitance zero?Ok, so then if I wanted to find the capacitance between a line charge and a cylindrical conducting shell around it, since I would have to define a potential difference, could I simply say the potential on the line is
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I know it seems a bit trivial, but what is the potential right at an infinite uniformly charged line?

Irregardless of reference point, the Potential will have a ln|s|, where s is the perpendicular distance to the line. Obviously this would result in infinity.

At the same time when I visualize a test charge on the line charge, the charge on either side of the test charge cancels and the result might be zero electric field on the line. This would result in a potential with respect to a reference point. But I suppose even this gives a potential of infinity, since there is the infinite potential difference between the reference point and essentially to the line.
 
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ExtravagantDreams said:
I know it seems a bit trivial, but what is the potential right at an infinite uniformly charged line?

Irregardless of reference point, the Potential will have a ln|s|, where s is the perpendicular distance to the line. Obviously this would result in infinity.

At the same time when I visualize a test charge on the line charge, the charge on either side of the test charge cancels and the result might be zero electric field on the line. This would result in a potential with respect to a reference point. But I suppose even this gives a potential of infinity, since there is the infinite potential difference between the reference point and essentially to the line.

The electric field ON a line charge will be zero, since a charge placed there will not move. You could say that the potential is zero there for that reason. However, we can't take a derivative of E there since the potential, as you say, blows up as it approaches that point from the exterior. So my conclusion would be that the potential is cannot be defined on the line charge.

-Dan
 
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Ok, so then if I wanted to find the capacitance between a line charge and a cylindrical conducting shell around it, since I would have to define a potential difference, could I simply say the potential on the line is zero and the potential at the shell is the negative integral of the electric field due to the line charge at the shell, using a reference point where the potential is zero. And then use that for the capacitance. Or would the potential difference be infinite, and then the capacitance zero?
 
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ExtravagantDreams said:
Ok, so then if I wanted to find the capacitance between a line charge and a cylindrical conducting shell around it, since I would have to define a potential difference, could I simply say the potential on the line is zero and the potential at the shell is the negative integral of the electric field due to the line charge at the shell, using a reference point where the potential is zero. And then use that for the capacitance. Or would the potential difference be infinite, and then the capacitance zero?

Is this a homework problem? The capacitance does go to zero in the limit of a line charge at the center of a hollow cylindrical conductor, but normally we do this problem for a cylindrical charge with a nonzero radius at the center. Physically that's what we would have in that situation anyway. I would recommend assuming a small radius r for the line charge and do the problem that way. (And if your professor doesn't like it, just take the limit as r goes to zero of your answer!)

-Dan
 

FAQ: What Is the Potential at an Infinite Uniformly Charged Line?

What is potential on a line charge?

Potential on a line charge refers to the electric potential at any point on a line charge, which is a hypothetical line of infinite length with a constant charge distribution. It is a measure of the electric potential energy per unit charge at a given location in space.

How is potential on a line charge calculated?

The potential on a line charge is calculated using the equation V = k*lambda/|r|, where V is the potential, k is the Coulomb constant, lambda is the linear charge density, and |r| is the distance from the point to the line charge. This equation assumes that the line charge is infinitely long and the point is on its perpendicular bisector.

What is the relationship between potential and electric field on a line charge?

The electric field on a line charge is directly proportional to the potential gradient, or the change in potential per unit distance. This means that a higher potential gradient results in a stronger electric field, and vice versa. Mathematically, this relationship is expressed as E = -dV/dr, where E is the electric field and dV/dr is the potential gradient.

How does the potential on a line charge change with distance?

The potential on a line charge varies inversely with distance, meaning that as the distance from the line charge increases, the potential decreases. This is because the electric field created by the line charge weakens as distance increases, leading to a decrease in potential. However, the potential also depends on the charge density of the line charge, with a higher charge density resulting in a stronger potential at a given distance.

What are some real-world applications of potential on a line charge?

Potential on a line charge has many practical applications, such as in electrostatic precipitators used for air pollution control, where charged plates create an electric field to remove particles from the air. It is also used in capacitors, which store electric energy, and in transmission lines for power distribution, where the potential on the line needs to be controlled to ensure efficient energy transfer.

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