What is the probability of getting r heads before s tails?

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In summary: What is the probability of the next two tosses being two heads?##P(H_j\cap H_{j+1})=P(H_j)P(H_{j+1})=p^2##.What is the probability of the next two tosses being two heads?##P(H_j\cap H_{j+1})=P(H_j)P(H_{j+1})=p^2##.
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Eclair_de_XII said:
I don't know what you mean by telescoping process. Do you mean that the finite sum is a telescoping series?

I mean show your work such that you telescope a series with ##s-1## terms in it and convert it into a fraction that has much less terms. I have not seen your work here. My sense is you're just guessing or otherwise skipping steps.
 
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it's killing me here because your post 25 and 27 are so close and I think you're within shouting distance of the finish line. All I'm getting at is

we have ## p \in (0,1)## and ##q = 1-p##, referencing the left side of post 30

##y:= \sum_{k=1}^{s-1} pq^{k-1} = p\big( 1+ q + q^2 + ... q^{s-2}\big) ##

I created ##y## for convenience. What you actually want is ##y \cdot P(E|H_1) = P(E|H_1)\cdot p\big( 1+ q + q^2 + ... q^{s-2}\big) ##, so we'll just multiply by ##P(E|H_1)## at the end.

the magic of telescoping is, we find some pattern in the sum and exploit it.

In this case, multiply each side by ##(1-q)## noting that ##(1-q) \gt 0##, so you get

##(1-q)y = (1-q) p\big( 1+ q + q^2 + ... q^{s-2}\big) = p\big( 1 - q^{s-1}\big) ##

divide each side by ##(1-q)## and get

##y =\frac{ p\big( 1 - q^{s-1}\big)}{1-q} = \frac{ p\big( 1 - q^{s-1}\big)}{p}= 1 - q^{s-1}##

so you what you're looking for is
##P(E|T_1) = y \cdot P(E|H_1) = P(E|H_1) \big(1 - q^{s-1}\big) ##
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If you swap this into your second line on post 16, and solve the system of equations good things should happen...
 
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First of all, I'm so sorry for being so clueless about finite sums and geometric series; Calculus II was so very long ago for me, and from what I remember of the class, I covered mostly infinite series. Anyway:

##P(E|H_1)+(p^{r-1}-1)P(E|T_1)=p^{r-1}##
##(q^{s-1}-1)P(E|H_1)+P(E|T_1)=0##

##A= \begin{pmatrix}
1 & (p^{r-1}-1) \\
(q^{s-1}-1) & 1 \\
\end{pmatrix}##

##det(A)=1+(1-q^{s-1})(p^{r-1}-1)##

##A^{-1} = \frac{1}{det(A)}\begin{pmatrix}
1 & (1-p^{r-1}) \\
(1-q^{s-1}) & 1 \\
\end{pmatrix}##

##\begin{pmatrix}
P(E|H_1) \\
P(E|T_1) \\
\end{pmatrix}
=\frac{1}{det(A)} \begin{pmatrix}
1 & (1-p^{r-1}) \\
(1-q^{s-1}) & 1 \\
\end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix}
p^{r-1} \\
0 \\
\end{pmatrix} =\frac{1}{1+(1-q^{s-1})(p^{r-1}-1)}\begin{pmatrix}
p^{r-1} \\
p^{r-1}(1-q^{s-1}) \\
\end{pmatrix}##

So ##P(E)=\frac{p^r+qp^{r-1}(1-q^{s-1})}{1+(1-q^{s-1})(p^{r-1}-1)}##
 
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