What Is the Radius of Convergence for This Second-Order ODE Series Solution?

In summary, the radius of convergence for a series solution of a differential equation can be determined from the final solution, and it is at least the minimum radius of convergence of the coefficients. In the case of the given equation, the solution has an infinite radius of convergence, but the coefficients have a minimum radius of convergence of -1/sqrt(3) < x < 1/sqrt(3). Therefore, the radius of convergence of the solution is at least -1/sqrt(3) < x < 1/sqrt(3). Additionally, the radius of convergence is the same for both forms of the differential equation.
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BobbyBear
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To solve the 2nd order ode:

[tex](3x^4+4x^2+1)y'' + (6x^3-2x)y' -(6x^2-2)y=0[/tex]

I used a Taylor series expansion around x=0, and I got the general solution:

[tex]y=a_0(1-x^2+x^4-x^6+...)+a_1x[/tex]

from the recurrence relation:

[tex]a_{n+2}=-\left[\frac{4n(n-1)-2n+2}{(n+2)(n+1)}\right]a_n-\left[\frac{3(n-2)(n-3)+6(n-2)-6}{(n+2)(n+1)}\right]a_{n-2}[/tex]

Now it is clear that the two independent homogeoneous solutions are

[tex]y_1=1-x^2+x^4-x^6+... = \frac{1}{1+x^2}[/tex]
[tex]y_2=x[/tex]

and the radius of convergence of the series


[tex]y_1=1-x^2+x^4-x^6+... [/tex]

is 1,

however,

using the recurrence relation I'm not being able to show that the radius of convergence of the series is indeed 1.

Can anyone help me to show this from the recurrence relation I obtained (I'm trying to use the ratio test, but I get another radius of convergence rather than 1)?
 
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In the theory of DE where should we compute the radius of convergence. Is it from

(a) the differential equation itself
(b) from the recurrence relation or from
(c) the series solutions ?

And do we expect the answers from (a) , (b) , and (c) equal ?
 
  • #3
matematikawan said:
In the theory of DE where should we compute the radius of convergence. Is it from

(a) the differential equation itself
(b) from the recurrence relation or from
(c) the series solutions ?

And do we expect the answers from (a) , (b) , and (c) equal ?

O: I was always taught that it was from the recurrence relation . . . the recurrence relation is what defines the solution series itself, so wouldn't it be the same thing? And I've never considered computing the radius of convergence from the differential equation itself, unless its considering which points of the equation are regular and which are singular, and assuming that a series solution will converge from the point it's centered around until the nearest singular point of the equation . . . though I don't know why that's true, if it is true :P

Can you give me any references where I can read up about this and be able to answer your question, please?
 
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I have no idea where should we compute the radius of convergence and I would also like to know about it. You could be right trying to compute it from the recurrence relation but it looks quite difficult to do it.

My opinion is that we compute the radius of convergence from the solution obtained.

What about from the DE itself ? If we write the given DE as
[tex] y\prime{} \prime{} + \frac{6x^3-2x}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y\prime{} -\frac{6x^2-2}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y=0[/tex]

Since [tex]3x^4+4x^2+1 \equiv (1+x^2)(1+3x^2) [/tex] so the coefficients of the DE only converges for
[tex] -\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} < x < \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} [/tex]

Or am I talking nonsense here
 
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matematikawan said:
What about from the DE itself ? If we write the given DE as
[tex] y\prime{} \prime{} + \frac{6x^3-2x}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y\prime{} -\frac{6x^2-2}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y=0[/tex]

Since [tex]3x^4+4x^2+1 \equiv (1+x^2)(1+3x^2) [/tex] so the coefficients of the DE only converges for
[tex] -\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} < x < \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} [/tex]

Or am I talking nonsense here

The theorem says that the radius of convergence for the solution is at least the minimum radius of convergence of the coefficients. It can happen that the solution has larger radius of convergence. In this case, the solution [tex]x[/tex] even has infinite radius of convergence.
 
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g_edgar said:
The theorem says that the radius of convergence for the solution is at least the minimum radius of convergence of the coefficients. It can happen that the solution has larger radius of convergence. In this case, the solution [tex]x[/tex] even has infinite radius of convergence.

That shed some light on the problem. So can I conclude that

i) we determine the radius of convergence from the final solution.

ii) the radius of convergence for the following DE are the same.

[tex](3x^4+4x^2+1)y\prime{} \prime{} + (6x^3-2x)y' -(6x^2-2)y=0[/tex]

[tex] y\prime{} \prime{} + \frac{6x^3-2x}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y\prime{} -\frac{6x^2-2}{3x^4+4x^2+1}y=0[/tex]
 

FAQ: What Is the Radius of Convergence for This Second-Order ODE Series Solution?

What is the definition of convergence in series solutions?

The convergence of a series solution refers to the behavior of the terms in a series as the number of terms increases. In other words, it is the tendency of the terms in a series to approach a finite value.

How do you determine if a series solution is convergent or divergent?

There are several tests that can be used to determine if a series solution is convergent or divergent, such as the Ratio Test, the Root Test, and the Integral Test. These tests involve examining the behavior of the terms in the series and comparing them to known convergent or divergent series.

What is the significance of the radius of convergence in series solutions?

The radius of convergence is a measure of how far a series solution can be extended before it diverges. It is an important concept in series solutions as it determines the region of convergence and the applicability of the solution to different values of the independent variable.

Can a series solution converge to more than one value?

No, a series solution can only converge to one value. This is because the terms in a series approach a single finite value as the number of terms increases. If the series converges to multiple values, it is not a valid solution.

What is the difference between absolute and conditional convergence in series solutions?

Absolute convergence refers to the convergence of a series solution regardless of the order of the terms, while conditional convergence only occurs when the terms in the series are arranged in a specific order. In other words, absolute convergence guarantees convergence to a unique value, while conditional convergence may result in different values depending on the order of the terms.

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