What makes a matrix positive ?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding an example of 2*2 matrices where 0(= or <)a(= or <)b does not imply a2(= or <)b2, with the added condition that the trace and determinant of both a and b matrices should be positive. The conversation also addresses the questions of whether there is an ordering operation over matrices and what makes a matrix larger than or equal to zero. The conversation concludes with the suggestion of using the concept of positive definite matrices to order matrices.
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Homework Statement



Find an example with 2 * 2 matrices for which: 0 (= or < ) a (= or < ) b does not imply a 2 (= or <) b2.

the trace and the determinant of both a and b matrices should be positive !

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The Attempt at a Solution



i just need to know 2 things :

1- is there an ordering operation over matrices ? how is it determined ?
2- what makes a matrix larger than or equal to zero ??
 
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now i found these two matrices :

a =
1 2
-1 0

b=
1 2
-1 0


a2 =
-1 2
-1 -2

b2 =
1 4
0 1

is it a valid answer for the question ?
 
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Umm, I think you made a typo... a=b in your example...
 
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The definition of a positive definite matrix is x*Mx>0 for all non-zero vectors x. The wiki page above is a good source.

Neither a or b are positive definite matrices. For instance {-1,2}*a{-1,2}=-1 for the a you gave.

This concept can be used to order matrices by saying that a>b if (a-b) is positive definite.

Hope this helps you.

-S
 

FAQ: What makes a matrix positive ?

What is a positive matrix?

A positive matrix is a square matrix in which all the elements are greater than or equal to zero. In other words, the value of each element in a positive matrix is either a positive number or zero.

How can you determine if a matrix is positive?

To determine if a matrix is positive, you can use the following methods:
- Check if all the elements in the matrix are greater than or equal to zero.
- Calculate the determinant of the matrix. If the determinant is greater than zero, the matrix is positive.
- Check if all the eigenvalues of the matrix are positive.

3. Can a matrix be positive and negative at the same time?

No, a matrix cannot be both positive and negative at the same time. A matrix is either positive, negative, or neither.

4. What is the significance of positive matrices?

Positive matrices are important in many areas of mathematics and science, including linear algebra, optimization, and probability theory. They also have applications in engineering, physics, and economics.

5. Can a non-square matrix be positive?

No, a non-square matrix cannot be positive. Positive matrices are defined only for square matrices, which have an equal number of rows and columns. However, a non-square matrix can have positive elements if it meets the criteria of a positive matrix (all elements are greater than or equal to zero).

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