What Was the Albert Einstein Debate of 2004?

[HallsofIvy]

GrimDad: I went to the web-site you give. They divide Einstein's manuscripts into two kinds: "published" and "unpublished". By far the greater number are "published". (And the "unpublished" appear to be summaries of his published work for classes and seminars). I don't know how that website could lead you to believe "But Einstein and much other major physics was not in journals".

 

[MathematicalPhysicist]

perhaps the teacher reffered to the debate which was held in ireland with stephen hawking, this one:
http://www.dcu.ie/~nolanb/gr17.htm

 

[GrimDad]

For Einstein and for others 'published' is not always 'published in journals' - you must have heard of books and other publications ? And anything can be peer-reviewed, including even websites !

 

[ZapperZ]

For Einstein and for others 'published' is not always 'published in journals' - you must have heard of books and other publications ? And anything can be peer-reviewed, including even websites !

"Published" in science ALWAYS means "published in a peer-reviewed journal". A "book" publication is always based on work already published in such journals. You are fooling yourself if you think those books and "other publications" that you cited were NOT based on work that already appeared in peer-reviewed journals. Again, all you need to do is show me one such report that has NEVER appeared in a peer-reviewed journal that has made an impact in advancing the body of knowledge in physics. All you have managed to do is throw out all these generalization without substance.

Also, please show me a "website" that is "peer-reviewed". I'm assuming that you do not mean the peer-reviewed journals websites themselves, because it appears that you somehow still think "journals" means "physical paper journals" (how archaic!).

Zz.

 

[GrimDad]

This is nicely answered by that history of science website which you would do well to give much more than a 'quick glance' - as you really need some history of science it seems - http://www.new-science-theory.com/ ?

 

[ZapperZ]

This is nicely answered by that history of science website which you would do well to give much more than a 'quick glance' - as you really need some history of science it seems - http://www.new-science-theory.com/ ?

Maybe you should read a real "history of science" text rather than use this website as your primary source of informaton. After all, we have already established that you cannot tell the difference when you are reading legitimate information from crap.

Zz.

P.S. Again, as before, when confronted with my questions asking for evidence to support ANY of your claims, you wither away with even attempting to answer them. I am still waiting for this "peer-reviewed websites" of yours.

 

[polyb]

musashi and anyone else who cares,

Perhaps your teacher was referring to the article that was recently published by a physicist claiming that perhaps Einstein plagiarised Hilbert in his formulations of GR. Here is the link to the article at the Register UK:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/

Here is the link to the write up:

http://www.physics.unr.edu/faculty/winterberg/Hilbert-Einstein.pdf

I hope this gives you something to go by, because it is the only thing that looks a like a debate to me. My only other advice is to double space and use large fonts, that should fill 20 pages quickly! Good luck!

 

[kuba]

Well guys, I see that this discussion has completely mised OPs post.

She said we have to figure everything out on our own. I am trying to write my outline now so i can start writing tommorow. But yeah i can't find jack on it.​

Well then I figure you should get a roll of toilet paper, cut it into nice strips, tape them together and cut to the size of letter sheets, nicely bind 20 of them and submit it to her. I suggest you poop on each page too. I'm dead serious.

If she shows any signs of astonishment, you can say that you figured out she meant bull****, and dissertated accordingly.

My goodness, what a #&@!$ teacher is she? "Figure everything out on your own" Yay sure. And then she has the freedom to fail everyone saying that "well, you didn't figure out what I wanted you to figure out". And fail whole class just because she had a period or something.

Drop the course if you can, or bring that issue up the chain of command (school/department principal?).