What Went Wrong with Solving a Simple Inequality?

In summary, the given inequality 3\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x+3}>1 can be solved by first rearranging and squaring both sides to get 9x>1+x+3+2\sqrt{x+3}. However, before squaring again, it is important to investigate the equation. If 4x-2>0, then the solution set is valid, but if 4x-2<0, then the solution set contains redundant roots. In this case, since the square root is defined as a non-negative number, 4x-2<0 is not possible and therefore x must be greater than 0.5.
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Homework Statement


[tex]3\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x+3}>1[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


As obvious from the given inequality, x must be greater than zero.
Rearranging and squaring both the sides,
[tex]9x>1+x+3+2\sqrt{x+3} \Rightarrow 4x-2>\sqrt{x+3}[/tex]
Squaring again,
[tex]16x^2+4-16x>x+3 \Rightarrow 16x^2-17x+1>0 \Rightarrow (x-1/16)(x-1)>0[/tex]
Hence, ##x \in (0,1/16) \cup (1,\infty)## but this is wrong. The correct answer is ##(1,\infty)##. I don't see what I did wrong.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


[tex]3\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x+3}>1[/tex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


As obvious from the given inequality, x must be greater than zero.
Rearranging and squaring both the sides,
[tex]9x>1+x+3+2\sqrt{x+3} \Rightarrow 4x-2>\sqrt{x+3}[/tex]
Squaring again,
[tex]16x^2+4-16x>x+3 \Rightarrow 16x^2-17x+1>0 \Rightarrow (x-1/16)(x-1)>0[/tex]
Hence, ##x \in (0,1/16) \cup (1,\infty)## but this is wrong. The correct answer is ##(1,\infty)##. I don't see what I did wrong.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

This is a "classic" elementary mistake in algebra. When you square (or more generally, take even powers) of equations, you often introduce "redundant roots". These roots solve the final form you get, but are not solutions to the original equation. The basic reason is that the square of both ##a## and ##-a## give you the same value ##a^2##.

Try putting ##x = \frac{1}{16}## in the original LHS and see what the expression evaluates to. Do you see what's going on?

In the future, when you square equations to solve them (if it's unavoidable, as in this case), always go back and test your solution set using the original equation. Discard solutions that don't satisfy the original equation.
 
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Curious3141 said:
This is a "classic" elementary mistake in algebra. When you square (or more generally, take even powers) of equations, you often introduce "redundant roots". These roots solve the final form you get, but are not solutions to the original equation.

Try the value 1/16 in the original LHS and see what RHS becomes. Do you see what's going on?

I understand what you say but is it possible to be able to point out the redundant interval immediately? I mean, in this case, I had to substitute 1/16 and found that it did not satisfy the inequality. How should I go about selecting the "redundant" roots?
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
I understand what you say but is it possible to be able to point out the redundant interval immediately? I mean, in this case, I had to substitute 1/16 and found that it did not satisfy the inequality. How should I go about selecting the "redundant" roots?

Generally, you test the solutions at the end and decide which to accept. I'm not familiar with any simpler method.
 
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Curious3141 said:
Generally, you test the solutions at the end and decide which to accept. I'm not familiar with any simpler method.

Thanks! :smile:
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
Thanks! :smile:

Sure, and thanks for the thanks!:wink:
 
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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


[tex]3\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{x+3}>1[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


As obvious from the given inequality, x must be greater than zero.
Rearranging and squaring both the sides,
[tex]9x>1+x+3+2\sqrt{x+3} \Rightarrow 4x-2>\sqrt{x+3}[/tex]

Before "squaring again", you have to investigate the equation. If 4x-2>0, you can proceed. But 4x-2<0 is not possible, as the square root is defined as non-negative number. A negative number can not be greater than a non-negative one. Therefore x must be greater then 0.5.


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ehild said:
Before "squaring again", you have to investigate the equation. If 4x-2>0, you can proceed. But 4x-2<0 is not possible, as the square root is defined as non-negative number. A negative number can not be greater than a non-negative one. Therefore x must be greater then 0.5.


ehild
Nice catch ehild, thank you! :smile:
 

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