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For example in DBZ, the level of power is determined by the ki, so what about the potter universe?
That's good. Official magic makes so much more sense than just randomly making stuff up.PWiz said:This might help:
https://www.quora.com/What-makes-a-wizard-or-witch-powerful-in-the-Harry-Potter-world
The reference is from the game "Book of Spells", which had J.K. Rowling's direct involvement in its development (and can hence be considered "official").
Officially made up stuff > Unofficial fan fictionphinds said:That's good. Official magic makes so much more sense than just randomly making stuff up.![]()
PWiz said:Officially made up stuff > Unofficial fan fiction
TheMathNoob said:For example in DBZ, the level of power is determined by the ki, so what about the potter universe?
are you joking? I don't think so. You look to smart to be a joker.Hornbein said:The wizard energy comes from the quantum Klein-Gordon field ϕ(x). Its momentum density π(x) are given in Fourier space by
ϕ(x)=∫d3p(2π)31√2ωp(apeip⋅x+a†pe−ip⋅x) and
π(x)=∫d3p(2π)3(−i)√ωp2(apeip⋅x+a†pe−ip⋅x).
Fervent Freyja said:From what I can remember, the source of power originated from the blood(lines).
Hornbein said:Sometimes yes, sometimes no. This was the source of controversy.
Kindly refer to the evidence that supports your claim. Until then I remain firmly in the spontaneous generation camp.Fervent Freyja said:Can you elaborate further on why the source of power could be “sometimes no” in the bloodlines?
The Wizard gene is dominant, whereas Muggle genes are recessive. If a Muggle shows signs of magic, then either the gene was dormant and skipped generations, or somebody is lying (they were adopted or the mother cheated). You cannot transform a Muggle into a Wizard. I think that the controversy was centered more around purity and power, but the magic had to originate in the bloodlines to even begin that feud.
Interesting. Were they hostile to science in general or just if anyone tried to apply it to their beliefs in unscientific things, or were they just indifferent to it in general, believing it to be irrelevant?jim mcnamara said:@phinds When in doubt sarcasm will usually get you points no matter what. I lived for years in a culture that actively feared witches and witchcraft. Stupid jokes were my only defense, since science was out of the question. Kewa Reservation, NM. (Santo Domingo Pueblo on old maps).
Worrisome to find that in the modern world in an advanced country. Some Indian tribes have somewhat adapted to the modern world. Hard to run casinos if you don't believe the technology works. Is this one a particularly backward tribe?jim mcnamara said:@phinds
It was not relevant to them. At all. Their belief was: they already had all the answers.
Oh, I've posted here several times about how about 40% or more of people in the US believe in angels, ghosts, space aliens and probably unicorns for all I know. I always think those number as too high, but not outrageously too high for reality.jim mcnamara said:@phinds Not really, just very conservative, and somewhat xenophobic (justifably). No casino though. Everyone has a cellphone, for what that's worth. I think you are a bit too sanguine about the level of Science understanding in the US:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/why-do-people-believe-in-ghosts/379072/
They cite a poll in 2014 - 42% of people in the US believe in ghosts.
You & I are out numbered, my friend, if you add in young Earth creationists to this mix:
33%.
http://ncse.com/blog/2013/11/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us-0015164
Hornbein said:Kindly refer to the evidence that supports your claim. Until then I remain firmly in the spontaneous generation camp.
Sophia said:I haven't found a single answer. There may be more factors that influence the power.
The simplest could be the wand intself (materials used and it's history)
Another is wizard's experience and inner power
But l I think that the most important of all factors is love and sacrifice (I'm halfway through the last book).
Believing in such ribby doesn't necessarily mean they are backwards. Lots of people in the West believe in paranormal phenomena and religion. Even American president informally had to believe in God! And you can earn a small fortune if you write New Age books. And what about all the horoscopes and fortune telling, talismans and lucky numbers?phinds said:Worrisome to find that in the modern world in an advanced country. Some Indian tribes have somewhat adapted to the modern world. Hard to run casinos if you don't believe the technology works. Is this one a particularly backward tribe?
Exactly! I noticed the same thing! I love the series, especially the second half because the relationships and characters evolve and they seem quite realistic to me.Fervent Freyja said:Certainly, there is an emotional component that is rewarding in the series. I enjoyed the friendships the most growing up. I do not really believe a person is ever truly sacrificing though, that comes about when there is no other choice or a need is present, and it isn't glamorous or noble to do so- quite ugly actually. If you notice, Harry Potters behavior is mostly driven by pure need, he rarely initiates anything else, and is neither a hero nor a total coward. I love the human, realist aspect of the character.
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You are right and I had actually thought about going back and adding a note to my post saying that that wording was a very poor choice.Sophia said:Believing in such ribby doesn't necessarily mean they are backwards.
BTW I noticed that the keyboard changed the word "things" to "ribby" haha I have no idea what ribby means :-)phinds said:You are right and I had actually thought about going back and adding a note to my post saying that that wording was a very poor choice.
phinds said:I have relatives who are otherwise seemingly sane, productive members of society and good family folks, but who believe in insane stuff like creationism and the young Earth. One of them has a PhD in math is technically brilliant but thinks Evolution is nonsense.
Religion is a matter of faith and has nothing to do with facts or science. He believed all this from early teaching and it became a matter of faith, not subject to rational analysis.DHF said:That is so strange, you would think going through academia for that long, you would be less prone to things that didn't make sense. Especially coming from a STEM subject, its pretty amazing that they believe stories from a book that was written by dozens of men over thousands of years and edited more times then a George Lucus film.
Fair enough, I just fin it fascinating that he chose to excel in mathematics, pretty much the poster child for logic and yet was able to keep his faith separate. To each his own, as long as you don't hurt anyone, believe what you want. I just find it really interesting that he could keep two radically different idea sets at the same time.phinds said:Religion is a matter of faith and has nothing to do with facts or science. He believed all this from early teaching and it became a matter of faith, not subject to rational analysis.
I think that what one believes in depends more on their personality, level of emotionality, life experiences and community one lives in etc.DHF said:Fair enough, I just fin it fascinating that he chose to excel in mathematics, pretty much the poster child for logic and yet was able to keep his faith separate. To each his own, as long as you don't hurt anyone, believe what you want. I just find it really interesting that he could keep two radically different idea sets at the same time.
I was raised catholic, I was never taught evolution by my family, creation was the only explanation given to me. When I discovered evolution later on, it just made sense.
DHF said:Fair enough, I just fin it fascinating that he chose to excel in mathematics, pretty much the poster child for logic and yet was able to keep his faith separate. To each his own, as long as you don't hurt anyone, believe what you want. I just find it really interesting that he could keep two radically different idea sets at the same time.
I was raised catholic, I was never taught evolution by my family, creation was the only explanation given to me. When I discovered evolution later on, it just made sense.