What's Wrong with this Argument? Understanding the Physics of Work

In summary, the conversation discusses an example where a 15 N force is applied to a 2 kg block, resulting in 20 J of work done. The teacher argues that this implies the same distance can be moved for any object with the same conditions. However, the student questions the statement, considering factors such as friction and gravity. The conversation concludes with the understanding that the 15 N resultant force may include other forces besides the one applied.
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Riddl3r
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Homework Statement



Our teacher made an unconvincing argument based on this example:
If a horizontal force of 15 N were a applied to a 2 kg block, and the work done was 20 J, what distance did the object move?

2. The attempt at a solution
Using W=F*d the teacher solved this: 20 J=15 N*x -> x=4/3 m.
This implied that if I applied 15 N to an object of any mass and did 20 J of work, the distance I could move the object is always the same. There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with this statement. But I'm not seeing what it is, I know it's there - I'm think that somehow I need to do something with the weight of the object. I mean if it were to be realistic I would have to calculate friction and gravity too...

Can somebody please tell me what I missed out?
 
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Riddl3r said:
2. The attempt at a solution
Using W=F*d the teacher solved this: 20 J=15 N*x -> x=4/3 m.
This implied that if I applied 15 N to an object of any mass and did 20 J of work, the distance I could move the object is always the same.
That's correct.

Riddl3r said:
There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with this statement. But I'm not seeing what it is, I know it's there - I'm think that somehow I need to do something with the weight of the object. I mean if it were to be realistic I would have to calculate friction and gravity too...

Can somebody please tell me what I missed out?
Usually we neglect friction and the gravity doesn't play a role here because this is a horizontal motion.
 
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it's more like a resultant force of 15N which moves the body 4/3 m when 20 J of work is done. the 15 N resultant force may include the force you apply - any resistive forces for example.
 
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Oh I see what you're saying, I guess my teacher didn't convey that point very well^^
 

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