Where Did I Go Wrong? Solving for Angular Momentum in Air Table Puck Collision

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the distance from the center of mass (CoM) to the center of puck 1, denoted as y1, in symbolic form for part (a). The solution involves using the center of mass of each puck as the origin and calculating the vertical distance from the origin to the CoM of puck 2, denoted as r3. The final calculation for y1 is shown as y1 = (m2(r1+r2))/(m1+m2), and the correct notation for CoM is also clarified.
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Homework Statement
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For part(a),
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The solution is,
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However, I made a mistake somewhere in my working below and I'm not sure what it is. Does anybody please know? Thank you!

Here is a not too scale diagram at the moment of the collision,
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## \vec L = \vec r \times \vec p ##
## \vec L = -y_{com}\hat j \times m_1v\hat i ##
## \vec L = y_{com}m_1v\hat k ##
## \vec L = \frac {m_2m_1v(r_1 +r_2)}{m_1 + m_2}\hat k ##
 

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For part (a) please show what the distance ##y_1## from the CoM to the center of puck 1 is and how you got it in symbolic form.
 
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kuruman said:
For part (a) please show what the distance ##y_1## from the CoM to the center of puck 1 is and how you got it in symbolic form.
Thank you for your reply @kuruman!

I assume that the COM of each puck is at the geometric center.

Choosing the center of ##m_1## as the origin where ##y = 0## and let ##r_3## be the vertical distance from ## y = 0## to the COM of ##m_2##.

## y_1 = y_{com} = \frac {m_1(0) + m_2r_3} {m_1 + m_2} ##

## y_1 = \frac {m_2(r_1 + r_2)} {m_1 + m_2} ##

Then substituting in values,

## y_1 = \frac {0.12(0.1)} {0.2} ##
## y_1 = 0.06 m ##

Also please see post #1, I missed some of the notations so I have edited it.

Many thanks!
 
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Thank you for your help @kuruman! I see now how they got their answer. I think I got confused because the solutions calculated the ##y_{com}## from a different point. Good idea to use ##y_1## notation for calculations of CoM with respect to different origins!Many thanks!
 

FAQ: Where Did I Go Wrong? Solving for Angular Momentum in Air Table Puck Collision

What is angular momentum in the context of an air table puck collision?

Angular momentum in the context of an air table puck collision refers to the rotational equivalent of linear momentum. It is a measure of the amount of rotation an object has, taking into account its mass, shape, and velocity. For a puck on an air table, it is calculated as the product of the puck's moment of inertia and its angular velocity.

How do I calculate the angular momentum of a puck before and after the collision?

To calculate the angular momentum of a puck before and after the collision, you need to know the puck's mass, velocity, and the distance from the point of rotation (usually the center of mass). The formula is L = Iω, where L is the angular momentum, I is the moment of inertia, and ω is the angular velocity. For a point mass, the moment of inertia I = mr², where m is the mass and r is the distance from the rotation axis.

What could cause discrepancies in my angular momentum calculations?

Discrepancies in angular momentum calculations can be caused by several factors, including measurement errors in mass, velocity, or distance; assumptions that simplify the system (e.g., ignoring friction or air resistance); and incorrect application of conservation laws. Ensuring accurate measurements and considering all forces and moments acting on the system can help minimize these discrepancies.

How does the conservation of angular momentum apply to an air table puck collision?

The conservation of angular momentum states that if no external torque acts on a system, the total angular momentum of the system remains constant. In the case of an air table puck collision, if no external forces or torques are acting on the pucks, the sum of the angular momenta of the pucks before the collision will equal the sum of the angular momenta after the collision.

What steps should I take to ensure accurate angular momentum calculations in my experiments?

To ensure accurate angular momentum calculations in your experiments, you should: 1) Carefully measure the mass, velocity, and distance from the point of rotation for each puck.2) Minimize external forces, such as friction and air resistance, by using a well-leveled air table.3) Use high-speed cameras or precise sensors to capture the velocities before and after the collision.4) Verify the initial and final conditions to ensure they align with the conservation laws.5) Repeat the experiment multiple times to average out any random errors.

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