Which Spring Has a Larger Displacement?

In summary, the problem involves an 8 kg mass hanging from two springs with different spring constants. Spring B has a larger displacement due to its higher spring constant. It is not necessary to know the equilibrium length to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


An 8 kg mass is hanging from two springs that are attached to the ceiling as shown in the figure. The spring constant of spring A is 165 N/m and the spring constant of spring B is 123 N/m. Which spring has a larger displacement?
Note: Spring A is attached to the ceiling on the left. It is angled at positive 60 degrees from the negative x-axis or (4[tex]\pi[/tex])/6. Spring B is on the right side angled at positive 45 degrees from the positive x-axis or ([tex]\pi[/tex])/2. Both are attached to their respective corners of the mass (particle).

Possible Answers:
Spring A
Spring B
Springs have equal displacement
It's impossible to calculate displacement without knowing the equilibrium length.

Homework Equations


Energy conservation and simple kinematics. ([tex]\Delta[/tex])U[tex]_{}g[/tex]
([tex]\Delta[/tex])U[tex]_{}s[/tex]
([tex]\Delta[/tex])K

The Attempt at a Solution


This problem is stumping me...
But, what I tried doing is setting the change in potential energy for gravity plus the change in potential energy for the spring equal to zero. I figure we can do this because there are no friction forces or drag in this case. Then we set the change in height equal to the change in displacement (using sin in the respective cases). But since the question has two springs I am a little confused on how to handle that. But the bigger question is, do we have to know the equilibrium length to solve it?
 
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The spring constant is the force needed to produce unit extension.

So the higher the spring constant, the more force needed to cause unit extension.

Knowing this now, which would would extend more?
 
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Spring B. That's what my gut feeling was.
So if I understand everything correctly we don't need to know equilibrium length. If we were to actually solve this problem would we need it then?
 
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smhippe said:
Spring B. That's what my gut feeling was.
So if I understand everything correctly we don't need to know equilibrium length. If we were to actually solve this problem would we need it then?

I don't think you will need it even if it is placed at that angle like that.
 

FAQ: Which Spring Has a Larger Displacement?

What is "Two springs a mass impossible"?

"Two springs a mass impossible" is a physics problem that involves two springs attached to a mass that is able to move in a straight line. It is often used to demonstrate the principles of simple harmonic motion.

What is the purpose of this problem?

The purpose of this problem is to understand how two springs with different spring constants can affect the motion of a mass and how to calculate the resulting oscillation frequency.

What are the assumptions made in this problem?

The assumptions made in this problem include: the springs are ideal, the mass is small and does not affect the springs, and the motion is in a straight line without any external forces acting on the mass.

How do you solve this problem?

To solve this problem, you need to use the equations of motion for simple harmonic motion and apply them to each spring individually. Then, you can use the principle of superposition to combine the two resulting motions to find the overall motion of the mass.

What are some real-life applications of this problem?

This problem can be applied to various real-life situations, such as understanding the motion of a mass on a spring system in a car suspension or modeling the motion of a pendulum. It can also be used in engineering designs for structures or machines that involve springs and oscillatory motion.

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