Why are almost all polyatomic ions negative?

In summary, the OP is questioning the prevalence of polyatomic cations compared to polyatomic anions in ionic salts. They note that commonly encountered polyatomic ions are anions containing oxygen, and suggest that this may be due to the prevalence of oxygen on Earth. However, the conversation also touches on the existence of other types of polyatomic cations, such as ammonium and phosphonium compounds.
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Cram Namlyts
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or, Why are there so few polyatomic cations? What about the mechanics of an atom makes it so?
 
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Welcome to PF;
The first three I thought of, off the top of my head, are all positive: CO+ , CH4+ , N2+ ... where do you get the idea that "almost all" molecular ions are negative? Is this something you have seen written down or an impression you have formed?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Welcome to PF;
The first three I thought of, off the top of my head, are all positive: CO+ , CH4+ , N2+ ... where do you get the idea that "almost all" molecular ions are negative? Is this something you have seen written down or an impression you have formed?

All of the ions that you listed are radial cations that are not very stable. The OP is talking about commonly encountered polyatomic ions found in ionic salts.

If you look at the list of common polyatomic anions (which is much larger than the list of common polyatomic cations), you'll see that many contain oxygen and are oxyanions. Perhaps the prevalence of these oxyanions is a consequence of life on Earth: Living organisms have made Earth's atmosphere rich in a relatively reactive substance, oxygen gas, that has reacted with many substances to produce the wide variety of oxyanions we see.
 
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My understanding is that the OP asks why there are plenty of ions like CO32-, PO43-, MnO4- and so on, but only a few like VO2+ or UO22+.

I am not convinced presence of oxygen on Earth explains that - I have a feeling it is not that these are the oxyions we observe, rather these are "oxyions" that exist in general. And oxyions seem to be dominated by oxyanions, with a relatively low number of oxycations.
 
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How many mono-, di-, tri-, tetra- (alkyl/alkenyl/aryl/etc.) ammonium/phosphonium compounds are there?

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Tropylium, carbonium, diazonium, oxonium, sulfonium, pyridinium --- just a matter of digging around a bit, and the difference in populations may not vanish, but become a matter of which areas of chemistry one wishes to focus upon.
 
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That's actually a great question! I don't know what it says about my education/studies, but it was never explained to me nor shown. I'm banking on simple observation...
 

FAQ: Why are almost all polyatomic ions negative?

Why do most polyatomic ions have a negative charge?

Polyatomic ions are groups of atoms that are covalently bonded together and have an overall charge. The majority of polyatomic ions have a negative charge because they have gained one or more extra electrons. This extra electron(s) causes the ion to have a negative charge, making it more stable.

What causes polyatomic ions to have a negative charge?

The negative charge on polyatomic ions is due to the presence of one or more extra electrons. These extra electrons are acquired when the ion combines with other atoms or ions through chemical bonding. The number of extra electrons determines the overall charge of the polyatomic ion.

Are there any exceptions to the rule that polyatomic ions are negative?

Yes, there are a few exceptions to the rule that polyatomic ions are negative. Some polyatomic ions have a positive charge, such as the ammonium ion (NH4+). These ions have lost one or more electrons, resulting in a positive charge.

Why are polyatomic ions more stable with a negative charge?

Polyatomic ions are more stable with a negative charge because this charge is achieved by gaining one or more extra electrons. These extra electrons fill up the outermost energy level of the ion, making it more stable and less likely to react with other atoms or ions.

How does the negative charge on polyatomic ions affect their chemical properties?

The negative charge on polyatomic ions affects their chemical properties in several ways. It can influence the ion's reactivity, as ions with a negative charge are more likely to attract positively charged ions. It can also affect the ion's solubility and polarity, as negative charges tend to be more attracted to polar substances. Additionally, the negative charge can also determine the ion's overall structure and shape, which can impact its chemical properties.

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