Why are fixed end moments AB and BC not considered in this problem?

In summary, the problem involves statically indeterminate beams, which require the use of indeterminate analysis methods. In this specific example, the interior joint B is temporarily assumed to be fixed, resulting in a fixed end moment of 3PL/16 at span BC. However, after completing the analysis, there are no external fixed end moments at the supports.
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In this problem , i don't understand why the fixed end moment AB and fixed end moment BC arent considered ?

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Is it because we are asked to find the moment at B , so only fixed end moment AB and fixed end moment BC arent considered ?
 

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the supports at A and C are given as pinned joints, not fixed joints, as noted in the problem.
 
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Here's a list of fixed end moment , in this example , we can see that the fixed end moment AB and BA is + / - PL / 8 , why it's not 3PL / 16 as in the example in post # 1? In both example , we could see that ( example in post1) , span BC is fixed supported and
PhanthomJay said:
the supports at A and C are given as pinned joints, not fixed joints, as noted in the problem.
One more problem , why (FEM)BC is 3PL / 16 ?
It's clear in the the figure 636 that when one end is fixed , while the another end is pinned , then the fixed end moment is 3PL /16 ... But for the span BC , we could see that B is the roller and C is the pinned connection , there's no fixed support in the span BC
 

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fonseh said:
Here's a list of fixed end moment , in this example , we can see that the fixed end moment AB and BA is + / - PL / 8 , why it's not 3PL / 16 as in the example in post # 1? In both example , we could see that ( example in post1) , span BC is fixed supported and

One more problem , why (FEM)BC is 3PL / 16 ?
It's clear in the the figure 636 that when one end is fixed , while the another end is pinned , then the fixed end moment is 3PL /16 ... But for the span BC , we could see that B is the roller and C is the pinned connection , there's no fixed support in the span BC
You are correct that there are no fixed end moments at A, B, and C. But remember, these series of problems you have been working on are for statically indeterminate beams because there are more unknown external support reaction forces and moments than the number of equilibrium equations, so you have to resort to indeterminate analysis methods such as the slope-deflection approach or moment distribution method. These methods require you to assume initially that the interior joint (B) is fixed, then you release the joint from fixity and let the assumed FEM moment distribute to the other ends based on stiffness and carry over factors. In this example, in span BC, you temporarily fix joint B, and since the beam is pinned at C, you use the table for a fixed-pinned beam to get the FEM_BC of 3PL/16. After completing the analysis, you end up with only internal moments, but no external FEM moments at the supports.
 

FAQ: Why are fixed end moments AB and BC not considered in this problem?

What is fixed end moment in beam 2?

Fixed end moment in beam 2 refers to the bending moment at the end of a beam that is fully fixed or restrained from rotation. It is a reaction force that occurs when a beam is subjected to external loads.

How is fixed end moment in beam 2 calculated?

The fixed end moment in beam 2 can be calculated using the formula M = wl^2/8, where M is the moment, w is the uniformly distributed load, and l is the length of the beam. This formula assumes a simply supported beam with a point load at the center.

What are the units for fixed end moment in beam 2?

The units for fixed end moment in beam 2 are force times length, such as pound-feet (lb-ft) or Newton-meters (N-m). This represents the magnitude of the bending moment at the end of the beam.

Why is fixed end moment in beam 2 important?

Fixed end moment in beam 2 is important because it helps determine the structural integrity and stability of a beam. It is a critical factor in analyzing and designing beams to ensure they can withstand the expected loads and forces.

How does fixed end moment in beam 2 affect beam deflection?

Fixed end moment in beam 2 directly affects the deflection or bending of a beam. The higher the fixed end moment, the greater the deflection of the beam. This is an important consideration in structural design to ensure the beam can support the expected loads without excessive deflection.

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