Why are there only seven crystal systems and not 11

In summary, the crystal systems are defined by their symmetry elements rather than the sides and angles. The monoclinic system has an angle c that prevents any additional symmetry elements even if the lengths A and B are equal. However, if the angle c is equal to 90, it becomes the orthorhombic system.
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I mean, the system is clearly related to seeing if the sides are of equal length and if the angles equal 90 degrees. If we first exclude the hexagonal, we have three sides and three angles each of which could be either equal/90degree. That gives us 3^2 = 9 possibilities.

Then looking at the hexagonal and with the same logic, the last length can either equal the two other or it can not, which gives another two possibilities.

The total then being 11 possibilities.. why is there for example no structure with [tex]a = b \neq c, \;\; \alpha = \beta = 90 \neq \gamma[/tex]?
 
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The crystal systems are more precisely defined by their symmetry elements than by the sides and angles. You probably know that the monoclinic system has angles a=b=90, c=/=90 and sides A,B,C not equal. In fact I think it's better to say A,B,C not necessarily equal. The defining characteristic of the monoclinic system is actually that it has one diad, ie if you consider an axis normal to the plane of the angle c, you can rotate the crystal by 180 around that axis with no change. Now imagine making the lengths A and B equal (or even A, B and C). With a little thought you can convince yourself that the crystal does not gain any additional symmetry elements due to this change, since the angle c prevents any diads along the other axes, or otherwise. So it's still monoclinic. Note, however, that if you make the angle c equal to 90, you will be in the orthorhombic system. So that one is a strict criteria.
 
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Ok, thanks makes sense now.
 

Related to Why are there only seven crystal systems and not 11

1. Why are there only seven crystal systems?

There are only seven crystal systems because these are the only arrangements in which atoms can be packed together to form a stable, repeating lattice structure.

2. How were the seven crystal systems discovered?

The seven crystal systems were discovered by René-Just Haüy in the late 18th century. He observed that crystals could be classified into seven distinct groups based on their symmetry and physical properties.

3. Is it possible for there to be more than seven crystal systems?

No, it is not possible for there to be more than seven crystal systems. The seven systems were determined based on the fundamental principles of symmetry and atomic arrangement, and there are no other possible arrangements that can be formed.

4. What are the differences between the seven crystal systems?

The seven crystal systems differ in their symmetry and the angles and lengths of their crystal axes. They also have different physical properties, such as hardness and cleavage, which are determined by their unique atomic arrangements.

5. How do the seven crystal systems play a role in material science and technology?

The seven crystal systems are important in material science and technology because they help us understand the properties and behavior of different materials. By knowing the crystal system of a material, we can predict its physical and chemical properties, and use this knowledge to design new materials for various applications.

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