Why Can We Take Limits of Both Sides? [Answered]

In summary: If not, then the limit of the left side would not converge to the limit of the right side and the limit would not exist.
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Does someone please know why we are allowed to take limits of both side [boxed in orange]?

Also for the thing boxed in pink, could we not divide by -h if ##h > 0##?

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ChiralSuperfields said:
Does someone please know
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ChiralSuperfields said:
Does someone please know why we are allowed to take limits of both side [boxed in orange]?
If you have two expressions making up an equation or an inequality, you can take the limit of both sides. IOW, if two quantities are equal, their limits will be equal. Same holds for inequalities.
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Also for the thing boxed in pink, could we not divide by -h if h>0?
The limit definition of the derivative (really, one such definition) has h in the denominator.

I'm guessing that there is some text that comes before what you have in the screen shot, something like ##f(c + h) - f(c) \le 0##.
The goal is to get the left side in the form of the limit definition of the derivative, so they first divide both sides by h, which is assumed to be positive. Thus, the direction of the inequality doesn't change. After taking the limit, they conclude that ##f'(c) \le 0##.

The rest of the work is to show that ##f'(c) \ge 0##, with a final conclusion that f'(c) = 0.
 
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It is indeed a bit tricky. For example if ##3-h=2.999999999 = f(1-h) < 3## as in one of your previous examples, we could and in the example would get ##\lim_{h\to 0}f(1-h)=3.## So all that can happen is, that the limit exists on the boundary: the function values are all smaller than three and the limit is equal to three. But this is all that could happen.

We have ##\dfrac{f(c+h)-f(c)}{h}\leq 0.## Imagine that ##0## be a wall and all points ##\dfrac{f(c+h)-f(c)}{h}## are on the left of this wall. You can get closer and closer to the wall, arbitrarily close by taking the limit, but you will always be left of it or at it; same as ##2.99999999\ldots## will always be smaller than ##3,## and in the limit equal to ##3.##

If there would be a gap, say ##\lim_{h\to 0} g(h)= C+1## and ##g(h)\leq C## for all ##h,## then remember what a limit is. A limit has in every how ever small neighborhood always an element of the sequence that converges to this limit. Therefore, there must be some ##h_0## such that ##|g(h_0)-(C+1)|< 1/3.## Now, show that such a point ##h_0## cannot exist, if ##g(h_0)<C.##
 
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It's important that the step where limits are taken on both sides includes the '=' case, like:
if ##g(x) \lt f(x)##, then ##lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) \le lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x)##.
The example you give does include the possibility that the limits are equal, so it is valid.
 
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Related to Why Can We Take Limits of Both Sides? [Answered]

Why can we take limits of both sides in an equation?

We can take limits of both sides in an equation because if two functions are equal at every point in their domain, their limits as they approach a particular value will also be equal, provided the limits exist. This is a fundamental property of limits in calculus.

What are the conditions for taking limits of both sides of an equation?

The primary conditions for taking limits of both sides are that the limits must exist, and the functions involved must be continuous at the point where the limit is being taken. If these conditions are met, the limit of the left-hand side will equal the limit of the right-hand side.

What happens if the limits do not exist?

If the limits do not exist, then it is not valid to take the limits of both sides of the equation. In such cases, the concept of limits cannot be applied, and other methods must be used to analyze the behavior of the functions involved.

Can we take limits of both sides for any type of function?

We can take limits of both sides for any type of function as long as the limits exist and the functions are continuous at the point of interest. For discontinuous functions or functions with undefined limits, taking limits of both sides may not be appropriate.

How does the concept of limits help in solving equations?

The concept of limits helps in solving equations by allowing us to analyze the behavior of functions as they approach specific values. This is particularly useful in calculus for finding derivatives, integrals, and solving differential equations, where direct evaluation may not be possible.

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