Why do clouds hold their shape in the wind?

  • Thread starter Echo 6 Sierra
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Form
In summary, the conversation discussed the formation and maintenance of clouds, as well as their differences from smoke. The cohesiveness of clouds is due to the dipolar property of water droplets and their proximity to each other. Wind shear can cause clouds to change shape, but their cohesiveness is maintained by the resistance of water droplets. The pot of boiling water also creates turbulent flow, but the dissipation of water droplets may not be as significant as it may seem. Various websites were also mentioned for further information on clouds and water molecules.
  • #1
Echo 6 Sierra
30
2
It's a partly cloudy day here and I was checking out the clouds as they flew by. Noticing the shapes of the clouds, I was wondering how they held their shape instead of being just a haze of water vapor when blown. When a pot of water boils the steam keeps its billowy cloud shape for a small distance and then just turns into a shapeless nothing. Is it that they are dense enough to resist being torn apart by the wind and pushed along en masse?

...the answer my friend, is...
 
Earth sciences news on Phys.org
  • #2
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #3
Look closer next time you get a chance. Perhaps even with binoculars. Some clouds are well-defined, but some are wispy. The ones that are well-defined are often well-defined because they are growing.

And clouds can get pulled apart by shear, but only pulled apart: Shear won't cause clouds to dissipate because the clouds ride with the wnd.
 
  • #4
Interesting question. You don't find the same cohesiveness in smoke. As smoke rises it dissipates rapidly. I am not a physicist, but it is my understanding that because water molecules are dipolar, water droplets are slightly polarized and act like small magnets, attracting each other. However, droplets are small (commonly only a few tens of microns in diameter, a property largely controlled by the size of cloud condensation nuclei, which is another complex topic) and commonly too far from each other to coalesce due to that attraction. They are small enough that despite being heavier than still air, even the slightest breeze will keep them aloft. In fact, there may need to be no breeze at all, with cloud droplets suspended in Brownian motion. (This also applies to ice crystals in clouds.) It is the proximity of water droplets to each other that allows you to see clouds. As light impinges upon a cloud, it is refracted and reflected in all directions, rendering what is mostly composed of air, opaque (water droplets comprise only about a millionth of the volume of the cloud). As clouds are constantly changing shape due to wind shear, the cohesiveness is largely maintained due to the resistance of this shearing by the dipolar property of water.

As far as the pot of water is concerned, turbulent flow is created by the upwelling of steam from the pot. The steam condenses rapidly a few millimeters from the pot forming water droplets. Water droplets rapidly move upward due to the turbulent updraft. However, what seems like dissipation, may be due more to the fact that there are too few water droplets to cause opaqueness. Maybe there is just enough dissipation to cause transparency, but maybe less dissipation from the pot of boiling water than you think.

A few useful websites:
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/droplets/clouds.htm
http://www.espere.net/Unitedkingdom/water/uk_cloudform.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(molecule )
 
Last edited by a moderator:

FAQ: Why do clouds hold their shape in the wind?

What are clouds made of?

Clouds are made up of tiny water droplets or ice crystals that have condensed from the water vapor in the air. These droplets and crystals are so small and light that they can be suspended in the air, creating the appearance of a cloud.

How are clouds formed?

Clouds are formed when warm, moist air rises into the atmosphere and cools. As the air cools, it can hold less water vapor, causing the water vapor to condense into liquid droplets or ice crystals, which form clouds. This process is known as condensation.

What factors affect the formation of clouds?

The formation of clouds is affected by several factors, including air temperature, air pressure, humidity levels, and wind patterns. These factors determine if there is enough water vapor in the air for clouds to form and the type and shape of the clouds that will be created.

How are clouds classified?

Clouds are classified based on their altitude and appearance. There are three main categories of clouds: high clouds, mid-level clouds, and low clouds. Within these categories, there are different types of clouds, such as cirrus, stratus, and cumulus, each with its unique characteristics and appearance.

Do different types of clouds have different meanings?

Different types of clouds can indicate different weather patterns. For example, thick, dark clouds often indicate an incoming storm, while high, thin clouds can be a sign of fair weather. However, the formation and behavior of clouds can also be affected by local and regional factors, making it challenging to predict the weather solely based on clouds.

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
7K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
21
Views
2K
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
25
Views
2K
Replies
16
Views
4K
Back
Top