Why Do Different Sources Show Varying Electric Flux Equations?

In summary, the conversation is about different equations for electric flux. One book, Serway, states that the electric flux is calculated by ∫E ds = 1/ε ∫ρ dv = Q/ε, while another book, Schaums, defines it as ∫D ds = Q = ψ. The question is about which equation is the correct one.
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Im starting to read about the electric flux and gauss's law. I am reading two books, Serway and Schaums electromagnetics.

The weird thing is that I'm getting different equations for the electric flux

Serway says that the Electric flux ψ is ∫E ds = 1/ε ∫ρ dv = Q/ε

While in other books I found that The Electric flux ψ is ∫ρ dv = Q

What is the real Electric flux equation ?

Thanks a lot.

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In Schaum's, is the flux ψ defined in terms of the field E or the field D?
 
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TSny said:
In Schaum's, is the flux ψ defined in terms of the field E or the field D?

it is defined in terms of D

as ∫D ds = Q = ψ
 
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Ok, that should account for the difference if you look at the relationship between E and D.
 
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The electric flux equation can be expressed in multiple ways, but they all represent the same concept. One of the most common forms is ∫E⋅dA = Q/ε₀, where E is the electric field, dA is the area element, Q is the enclosed charge, and ε₀ is the permittivity of free space. This equation is derived from Gauss's law, which states that the electric flux through a closed surface is equal to the enclosed charge divided by the permittivity of free space.

In terms of the equations you have mentioned, both are correct in different contexts. The first equation, ∫E ds = 1/ε ∫ρ dv = Q/ε, is used when calculating the electric flux through a closed surface with a known electric field and charge distribution. The second equation, ∫ρ dv = Q, is used when calculating the electric flux through an open surface with a known charge distribution.

It is important to note that the electric flux is a scalar quantity and can be expressed in different ways depending on the situation. Therefore, both equations are valid and represent the same concept. It is important to understand the context in which each equation is used and how they are derived from Gauss's law.
 

FAQ: Why Do Different Sources Show Varying Electric Flux Equations?

What is the electric flux equation and how is it used?

The electric flux equation, also known as Gauss's law, is used to calculate the electric flux through a closed surface surrounding an electric charge. It is given by the equation Φ = E · A · cos(θ), where E is the electric field, A is the area of the surface, and θ is the angle between the electric field and the normal to the surface.

What is the unit of measurement for electric flux?

The unit of measurement for electric flux is volts per meter (V/m). This can also be written as newtons per coulomb (N/C), as both units represent the strength of the electric field.

What does a positive or negative electric flux value indicate?

A positive electric flux value indicates that the electric field points outward from the enclosed surface, while a negative value indicates that the electric field points inward. This is due to the direction of the normal vector to the surface being taken into account in the calculation.

Can the electric flux equation be used for any shape of surface?

Yes, the electric flux equation can be used for any shape of surface as long as it is closed and surrounds the electric charge. However, for complex shapes, the calculation of the electric field may become more challenging and require advanced mathematical techniques.

How is the electric flux equation related to Coulomb's law?

The electric flux equation is derived from Coulomb's law, which states that the electric field is proportional to the inverse square of the distance from the electric charge. By integrating the electric field over a closed surface, we can calculate the total electric flux through that surface.

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